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BoF for APNIC 28 in Beijing - IPv6 Promotion
by Skeeve Stevens 16 Aug '09

16 Aug '09

Greeting all that will be attending APNIC 28 in Beijing, While we are in China at APNIC 28, and as per the spirit of 1.3 of http://www.apnic.net/__data/assets/pdf_file/0012/3117/sig-guidelines.pdf I am proposing that we hold a BoF for the purpose of seeing if there are enough interested parties to get together to discuss the issue of IPv6 promotion in the APNIC region with the 'maybe' end of it becoming a SIG. I am asking for some leeway in this request as this region is a complex one with a very broad range of cultural differences and language barriers that that don't always translate across the entire membership. For example, the way we might want to accomplish something in Australia could be very different to the way it would be done in say Japan, China or India. IPv6 promotion is something that APNIC has been doing for quite a while now, with some degree of success. But given the timeframes in which we have till things get very painful for many organisations, I do not believe that APNIC has sufficient resources (whether that be man-power, financial, etc) to effectively promote it across all the economic communities that it represents. I would like the hold a BoF to gauge the interest on how members themselves can be more involved in their region, what they would/could be prepared to do, and to discuss the challenges that we are having, developing new ideas and focusing on specific ways to promote IPv6 - without all the technical mumbo-jumbo. I am suggesting a much less technical perspective needs to take shape. I realise that a very large percentage of us are technical people, but there are many business minded people who I am sure have many great ideas... and if there isn't that many... let's get them involved somehow. Many members in the APNIC region have their own NIR (JPNIC, CNNIC, etc) to assist in these kinds of matters (I assume), but in Australia and NZ specifically speaking for my area of focus, we deal directly with APNIC... so I don't know how appropriate having people who deal with their NIR directly on these matters, but the more the merrier. There is no suggestion in this proposal that the many people who talk at conferences about IPv6, or APNIC themselves have not done a good job... My suggestion is that we can do more, and time is of the essence. I am inspired to bring this about by my own passion regarding IPv6 adoption, and I am willing to put (and already have put) the resources and passion of me and my company behind efforts to help finding new ways to foster IPv6 adoption in this region. There seems to be an issue of room availability at APNIC28, but if I have to put up some $$ myself and we go take over the local McDonalds, I am willing to do so to try and help make this BoF happen. I think timing is important... and I think now is the time we need to start discussing these things. Big machines like APNIC move rather slowly, and I am willing to try to do what it takes to try and push things along. So, if you're going to be in Beijing, and you really are passionate about IPv6 adoption, please come and see me - the big bald aussie-guy - and let's get something happening. I will be looking at the schedule to see where we can fit a couple of hours to chat. Also, you might be approached by myself or others who are also interested in making this happen. All I can ask is to please be involved, and DO - rather than talk about it. -- Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists skeeve(a)eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954 Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve ; facebook.com/eintellego -- NOC, NOC, who's there? Disclaimer: Limits of Liability and Disclaimer: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain sensitive and private proprietary or legally privileged information. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. eintellego Pty Ltd and each legal entity in the Tefilah Pty Ltd group of companies reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorised to state them to be the views of any such entity. Any reference to costs, fee quotations, contractual transactions and variations to contract terms is subject to separate confirmation in writing signed by an authorised representative of eintellego. Whilst all efforts are made to safeguard inbound and outbound e-mails, we cannot guarantee that attachments are virus-free or compatible with your systems and do not accept any liability in respect of viruses or computer problems experienced.

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 16 Aug '09

16 Aug '09

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS2687 descr: advertised to AS9439 by AT&T - AS2687 members: 130.123.0.0/16^16-29, 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 166.65.0.0/16^16-29, 203.114.128.0/18^18-29, 119.15.0.0/19^19-29, 121.79.192.0/19^19-29, 202.154.128.0/19^19-29, 124.248.128.0/20^20-29, 202.46.160.0/20^20-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.86.96.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 203.96.16.0/20^20-29, 203.96.48.0/20^20-29, 203.96.128.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 120.89.80.0/21^21-29, 202.27.192.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 202.126.80.0/21^21-29, 202.160.112.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 113.59.224.0/22^22-29, 202.27.200.0/22^22-29, 202.27.212.0/22^22-29, 202.27.216.0/22^22-29, 202.36.192.0/22^22-29, 202.37.48.0/22^22-29, 202.49.0.0/22^22-29, 202.89.4.0/22^22-29, 122.248.172.0/23^23-29, 202.14.32.0/23^23-29, 202.27.136.0/23^23-29, 202.27.210.0/23^23-29, 202.36.68.0/23^23-29, 202.36.204.0/23^23-29, 202.37.70.0/23^23-29, 202.169.194.0/23^23-29, 202.175.142.0/23^23-29, 203.84.134.0/23^23-29, 203.99.128.0/23^23-29, 203.163.70.0/23^23-29, 203.176.122.0/23^23-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.122.171.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 192.138.251.0/24^24-29, 192.173.17.0/24^24-29, 192.173.18.0/24^24-29, 192.173.20.0/24^24-29, 192.195.219.0/24^24-29, 192.203.216.0/24^24-29, 202.8.13.0/24^24-29, 202.12.0.0/24^24-29, 202.12.91.0/24^24-29, 202.12.105.0/24^24-29, 202.14.45.0/24^24-29, 202.14.63.0/24^24-29, 202.14.102.0/24^24-29, 202.20.65.0/24^24-29, 202.20.92.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.21.157.0/24^24-29, 202.27.77.0/24^24-29, 202.27.83.0/24^24-29, 202.27.160.0/24^24-29, 202.27.209.0/24^24-29, 202.27.222.0/24^24-29, 202.27.236.0/24^24-29, 202.27.247.0/24^24-29, 202.27.251.0/24^24-29, 202.36.12.0/24^24-29, 202.36.29.0/24^24-29, 202.36.33.0/24^24-29, 202.36.43.0/24^24-29, 202.36.75.0/24^24-29, 202.36.80.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.154.0/24^24-29, 202.36.162.0/24^24-29, 202.36.198.0/24^24-29, 202.36.218.0/24^24-29, 202.37.68.0/24^24-29, 202.37.117.0/24^24-29, 202.37.118.0/24^24-29, 202.37.167.0/24^24-29, 202.37.168.0/24^24-29, 202.37.205.0/24^24-29, 202.37.254.0/24^24-29, 202.46.176.0/24^24-29, 202.46.183.0/24^24-29, 202.46.188.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.5.0/24^24-29, 202.49.6.0/24^24-29, 202.49.106.0/24^24-29, 202.49.141.0/24^24-29, 202.49.144.0/24^24-29, 202.49.159.0/24^24-29, 202.49.183.0/24^24-29, 202.49.189.0/24^24-29, 202.50.95.0/24^24-29, 202.50.247.0/24^24-29, 202.55.105.0/24^24-29, 202.55.107.0/24^24-29, 202.135.38.0/24^24-29, 202.135.49.0/24^24-29, 202.135.62.0/24^24-29, 202.135.64.0/24^24-29, 202.135.85.0/24^24-29, 202.135.107.0/24^24-29, 202.135.111.0/24^24-29, 202.135.112.0/24^24-29, 202.135.116.0/24^24-29, 202.135.142.0/24^24-29, 202.135.146.0/24^24-29, 202.135.190.0/24^24-29, 202.135.192.0/24^24-29, 202.135.231.0/24^24-29, 202.169.193.0/24^24-29, 202.169.196.0/24^24-29, 202.169.198.0/24^24-29, 202.169.223.0/24^24-29, 203.92.25.0/24^24-29, 203.96.119.0/24^24-29, 203.163.68.0/24^24-29, 203.163.94.0/24^24-29, 203.163.98.0/24^24-29, 203.196.101.0/24^24-29, 203.196.119.0/24^24-29, 203.196.121.0/24^24-29, 210.7.46.0/24^24-29, 219.88.230.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: dl-globalwork(a)att.com mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20090724 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS2687 descr: advertised to AS9439 by AT&T - AS2687 members: 130.123.0.0/16^16-29, 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 166.65.0.0/16^16-29, 203.114.128.0/18^18-29, 119.15.0.0/19^19-29, 121.79.192.0/19^19-29, 202.154.128.0/19^19-29, 124.248.128.0/20^20-29, 202.46.160.0/20^20-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.86.96.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 203.96.16.0/20^20-29, 203.96.48.0/20^20-29, 203.96.128.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 120.89.80.0/21^21-29, 202.27.192.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 202.126.80.0/21^21-29, 202.160.112.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 113.59.224.0/22^22-29, 202.27.200.0/22^22-29, 202.27.212.0/22^22-29, 202.27.216.0/22^22-29, 202.36.192.0/22^22-29, 202.37.48.0/22^22-29, 202.49.0.0/22^22-29, 202.89.4.0/22^22-29, 122.248.172.0/23^23-29, 202.14.32.0/23^23-29, 202.27.136.0/23^23-29, 202.27.210.0/23^23-29, 202.36.68.0/23^23-29, 202.36.204.0/23^23-29, 202.37.70.0/23^23-29, 202.169.194.0/23^23-29, 202.175.142.0/23^23-29, 203.84.134.0/23^23-29, 203.99.128.0/23^23-29, 203.163.70.0/23^23-29, 203.176.122.0/23^23-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.122.171.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 192.138.251.0/24^24-29, 192.173.17.0/24^24-29, 192.173.18.0/24^24-29, 192.173.20.0/24^24-29, 192.195.219.0/24^24-29, 192.203.216.0/24^24-29, 202.8.13.0/24^24-29, 202.12.0.0/24^24-29, 202.12.91.0/24^24-29, 202.12.105.0/24^24-29, 202.14.45.0/24^24-29, 202.14.63.0/24^24-29, 202.14.102.0/24^24-29, 202.20.65.0/24^24-29, 202.20.92.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.21.157.0/24^24-29, 202.27.77.0/24^24-29, 202.27.83.0/24^24-29, 202.27.160.0/24^24-29, 202.27.209.0/24^24-29, 202.27.222.0/24^24-29, 202.27.236.0/24^24-29, 202.27.247.0/24^24-29, 202.27.251.0/24^24-29, 202.36.12.0/24^24-29, 202.36.29.0/24^24-29, 202.36.33.0/24^24-29, 202.36.43.0/24^24-29, 202.36.75.0/24^24-29, 202.36.80.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.154.0/24^24-29, 202.36.162.0/24^24-29, 202.36.198.0/24^24-29, 202.36.218.0/24^24-29, 202.37.68.0/24^24-29, 202.37.117.0/24^24-29, 202.37.118.0/24^24-29, 202.37.167.0/24^24-29, 202.37.168.0/24^24-29, 202.37.205.0/24^24-29, 202.37.254.0/24^24-29, 202.46.176.0/24^24-29, 202.46.183.0/24^24-29, 202.46.188.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.5.0/24^24-29, 202.49.6.0/24^24-29, 202.49.106.0/24^24-29, 202.49.141.0/24^24-29, 202.49.144.0/24^24-29, 202.49.159.0/24^24-29, 202.49.183.0/24^24-29, 202.49.189.0/24^24-29, 202.50.95.0/24^24-29, 202.50.247.0/24^24-29, 202.55.105.0/24^24-29, 202.55.107.0/24^24-29, 202.89.57.0/24^24-29, 202.135.38.0/24^24-29, 202.135.49.0/24^24-29, 202.135.62.0/24^24-29, 202.135.64.0/24^24-29, 202.135.85.0/24^24-29, 202.135.107.0/24^24-29, 202.135.111.0/24^24-29, 202.135.112.0/24^24-29, 202.135.116.0/24^24-29, 202.135.142.0/24^24-29, 202.135.146.0/24^24-29, 202.135.190.0/24^24-29, 202.135.192.0/24^24-29, 202.135.231.0/24^24-29, 202.169.193.0/24^24-29, 202.169.196.0/24^24-29, 202.169.198.0/24^24-29, 202.169.212.0/24^24-29, 202.169.223.0/24^24-29, 203.89.178.0/24^24-29, 203.89.181.0/24^24-29, 203.89.187.0/24^24-29, 203.92.25.0/24^24-29, 203.96.119.0/24^24-29, 203.163.68.0/24^24-29, 203.163.94.0/24^24-29, 203.163.98.0/24^24-29, 203.196.101.0/24^24-29, 203.196.119.0/24^24-29, 203.196.121.0/24^24-29, 210.7.46.0/24^24-29, 219.88.230.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: dl-globalwork(a)att.com mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20090817 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 16 Aug '09

16 Aug '09

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS2687 descr: advertised to AS9560 by AT&T - AS2687 members: 130.123.0.0/16^16-29, 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 166.65.0.0/16^16-29, 203.114.128.0/18^18-29, 119.15.0.0/19^19-29, 121.79.192.0/19^19-29, 202.154.128.0/19^19-29, 124.248.128.0/20^20-29, 202.46.160.0/20^20-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.86.96.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 203.96.16.0/20^20-29, 203.96.48.0/20^20-29, 203.96.128.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 120.89.80.0/21^21-29, 202.27.192.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 202.126.80.0/21^21-29, 202.160.112.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 113.59.224.0/22^22-29, 202.27.200.0/22^22-29, 202.27.212.0/22^22-29, 202.27.216.0/22^22-29, 202.36.192.0/22^22-29, 202.37.48.0/22^22-29, 202.49.0.0/22^22-29, 202.89.4.0/22^22-29, 122.248.172.0/23^23-29, 202.14.32.0/23^23-29, 202.27.136.0/23^23-29, 202.27.210.0/23^23-29, 202.36.68.0/23^23-29, 202.36.204.0/23^23-29, 202.37.70.0/23^23-29, 202.169.194.0/23^23-29, 202.175.142.0/23^23-29, 203.84.134.0/23^23-29, 203.99.128.0/23^23-29, 203.163.70.0/23^23-29, 203.176.122.0/23^23-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.122.171.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 192.138.251.0/24^24-29, 192.173.17.0/24^24-29, 192.173.18.0/24^24-29, 192.173.20.0/24^24-29, 192.195.219.0/24^24-29, 192.203.216.0/24^24-29, 202.8.13.0/24^24-29, 202.12.0.0/24^24-29, 202.12.91.0/24^24-29, 202.12.105.0/24^24-29, 202.14.45.0/24^24-29, 202.14.63.0/24^24-29, 202.14.102.0/24^24-29, 202.20.65.0/24^24-29, 202.20.92.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.21.157.0/24^24-29, 202.27.77.0/24^24-29, 202.27.83.0/24^24-29, 202.27.160.0/24^24-29, 202.27.209.0/24^24-29, 202.27.222.0/24^24-29, 202.27.236.0/24^24-29, 202.27.247.0/24^24-29, 202.27.251.0/24^24-29, 202.36.12.0/24^24-29, 202.36.29.0/24^24-29, 202.36.33.0/24^24-29, 202.36.43.0/24^24-29, 202.36.75.0/24^24-29, 202.36.80.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.154.0/24^24-29, 202.36.162.0/24^24-29, 202.36.198.0/24^24-29, 202.36.218.0/24^24-29, 202.37.68.0/24^24-29, 202.37.117.0/24^24-29, 202.37.118.0/24^24-29, 202.37.167.0/24^24-29, 202.37.168.0/24^24-29, 202.37.205.0/24^24-29, 202.37.254.0/24^24-29, 202.46.176.0/24^24-29, 202.46.183.0/24^24-29, 202.46.188.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.5.0/24^24-29, 202.49.6.0/24^24-29, 202.49.106.0/24^24-29, 202.49.141.0/24^24-29, 202.49.144.0/24^24-29, 202.49.159.0/24^24-29, 202.49.183.0/24^24-29, 202.49.189.0/24^24-29, 202.50.95.0/24^24-29, 202.50.247.0/24^24-29, 202.55.105.0/24^24-29, 202.55.107.0/24^24-29, 202.135.38.0/24^24-29, 202.135.49.0/24^24-29, 202.135.62.0/24^24-29, 202.135.64.0/24^24-29, 202.135.85.0/24^24-29, 202.135.107.0/24^24-29, 202.135.111.0/24^24-29, 202.135.112.0/24^24-29, 202.135.116.0/24^24-29, 202.135.142.0/24^24-29, 202.135.146.0/24^24-29, 202.135.190.0/24^24-29, 202.135.192.0/24^24-29, 202.135.231.0/24^24-29, 202.169.193.0/24^24-29, 202.169.196.0/24^24-29, 202.169.198.0/24^24-29, 202.169.223.0/24^24-29, 203.92.25.0/24^24-29, 203.96.119.0/24^24-29, 203.163.68.0/24^24-29, 203.163.94.0/24^24-29, 203.163.98.0/24^24-29, 203.196.101.0/24^24-29, 203.196.119.0/24^24-29, 203.196.121.0/24^24-29, 210.7.46.0/24^24-29, 219.88.230.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: dl-globalwork(a)att.com mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20090724 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS2687 descr: advertised to AS9560 by AT&T - AS2687 members: 130.123.0.0/16^16-29, 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 166.65.0.0/16^16-29, 203.114.128.0/18^18-29, 119.15.0.0/19^19-29, 121.79.192.0/19^19-29, 202.154.128.0/19^19-29, 124.248.128.0/20^20-29, 202.46.160.0/20^20-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.86.96.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 203.96.16.0/20^20-29, 203.96.48.0/20^20-29, 203.96.128.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 120.89.80.0/21^21-29, 202.27.192.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 202.126.80.0/21^21-29, 202.160.112.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 113.59.224.0/22^22-29, 202.27.200.0/22^22-29, 202.27.212.0/22^22-29, 202.27.216.0/22^22-29, 202.36.192.0/22^22-29, 202.37.48.0/22^22-29, 202.49.0.0/22^22-29, 202.89.4.0/22^22-29, 122.248.172.0/23^23-29, 202.14.32.0/23^23-29, 202.27.136.0/23^23-29, 202.27.210.0/23^23-29, 202.36.68.0/23^23-29, 202.36.204.0/23^23-29, 202.37.70.0/23^23-29, 202.169.194.0/23^23-29, 202.175.142.0/23^23-29, 203.84.134.0/23^23-29, 203.99.128.0/23^23-29, 203.163.70.0/23^23-29, 203.176.122.0/23^23-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.122.171.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 192.138.251.0/24^24-29, 192.173.17.0/24^24-29, 192.173.18.0/24^24-29, 192.173.20.0/24^24-29, 192.195.219.0/24^24-29, 192.203.216.0/24^24-29, 202.8.13.0/24^24-29, 202.12.0.0/24^24-29, 202.12.91.0/24^24-29, 202.12.105.0/24^24-29, 202.14.45.0/24^24-29, 202.14.63.0/24^24-29, 202.14.102.0/24^24-29, 202.20.65.0/24^24-29, 202.20.92.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.21.157.0/24^24-29, 202.27.77.0/24^24-29, 202.27.83.0/24^24-29, 202.27.160.0/24^24-29, 202.27.209.0/24^24-29, 202.27.222.0/24^24-29, 202.27.236.0/24^24-29, 202.27.247.0/24^24-29, 202.27.251.0/24^24-29, 202.36.12.0/24^24-29, 202.36.29.0/24^24-29, 202.36.33.0/24^24-29, 202.36.43.0/24^24-29, 202.36.75.0/24^24-29, 202.36.80.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.154.0/24^24-29, 202.36.162.0/24^24-29, 202.36.198.0/24^24-29, 202.36.218.0/24^24-29, 202.37.68.0/24^24-29, 202.37.117.0/24^24-29, 202.37.118.0/24^24-29, 202.37.167.0/24^24-29, 202.37.168.0/24^24-29, 202.37.205.0/24^24-29, 202.37.254.0/24^24-29, 202.46.176.0/24^24-29, 202.46.183.0/24^24-29, 202.46.188.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.5.0/24^24-29, 202.49.6.0/24^24-29, 202.49.106.0/24^24-29, 202.49.141.0/24^24-29, 202.49.144.0/24^24-29, 202.49.159.0/24^24-29, 202.49.183.0/24^24-29, 202.49.189.0/24^24-29, 202.50.95.0/24^24-29, 202.50.247.0/24^24-29, 202.55.105.0/24^24-29, 202.55.107.0/24^24-29, 202.89.57.0/24^24-29, 202.135.38.0/24^24-29, 202.135.49.0/24^24-29, 202.135.62.0/24^24-29, 202.135.64.0/24^24-29, 202.135.85.0/24^24-29, 202.135.107.0/24^24-29, 202.135.111.0/24^24-29, 202.135.112.0/24^24-29, 202.135.116.0/24^24-29, 202.135.142.0/24^24-29, 202.135.146.0/24^24-29, 202.135.190.0/24^24-29, 202.135.192.0/24^24-29, 202.135.231.0/24^24-29, 202.169.193.0/24^24-29, 202.169.196.0/24^24-29, 202.169.198.0/24^24-29, 202.169.212.0/24^24-29, 202.169.223.0/24^24-29, 203.89.178.0/24^24-29, 203.89.181.0/24^24-29, 203.89.187.0/24^24-29, 203.92.25.0/24^24-29, 203.96.119.0/24^24-29, 203.163.68.0/24^24-29, 203.163.94.0/24^24-29, 203.163.98.0/24^24-29, 203.196.101.0/24^24-29, 203.196.119.0/24^24-29, 203.196.121.0/24^24-29, 210.7.46.0/24^24-29, 219.88.230.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: dl-globalwork(a)att.com mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20090817 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 16 Aug '09

16 Aug '09

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS17746 descr: advertised to AS9560 by Orcon Internet Ltd - AS17746 members: 60.234.0.0/16^16-29, 121.98.0.0/16^16-29, 156.62.0.0/16^16-29, 202.150.96.0/19^19-29, 202.126.192.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 219.88.128.0/20^20-29, 219.88.240.0/20^20-29, 116.193.144.0/21^21-29, 116.199.208.0/21^21-29, 202.49.64.0/21^21-29, 210.54.56.0/21^21-29, 210.79.48.0/21^21-29, 113.21.224.0/22^22-29, 202.127.8.0/22^22-29, 210.54.148.0/22^22-29, 210.55.12.0/22^22-29, 120.138.22.0/23^23-29, 202.36.230.0/23^23-29, 202.37.82.0/23^23-29, 202.175.142.0/23^23-29, 192.203.216.0/24^24-29, 202.0.151.0/24^24-29, 202.12.104.0/24^24-29, 202.27.8.0/24^24-29, 202.27.77.0/24^24-29, 202.36.12.0/24^24-29, 202.36.174.0/24^24-29, 202.37.19.0/24^24-29, 202.37.78.0/24^24-29, 202.37.173.0/24^24-29, 202.46.189.0/24^24-29, 202.49.140.0/24^24-29, 202.49.233.0/24^24-29, 202.49.246.0/24^24-29, 202.50.164.0/24^24-29, 202.50.246.0/24^24-29, 202.95.250.0/24^24-29, 202.129.253.0/24^24-29, 210.54.12.0/24^24-29, 210.55.8.0/24^24-29, 210.55.199.0/24^24-29, 202.27.188.128/25^25-29, 210.55.0.0/25^25-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: benny.treefoot(a)team.orcon.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20090721 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS17746 descr: advertised to AS9560 by Orcon Internet Limited - AS17746 members: 60.234.0.0/16^16-29, 121.98.0.0/16^16-29, 156.62.0.0/16^16-29, 202.150.96.0/19^19-29, 202.126.192.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 219.88.128.0/20^20-29, 219.88.240.0/20^20-29, 116.193.144.0/21^21-29, 116.199.208.0/21^21-29, 202.49.64.0/21^21-29, 210.54.56.0/21^21-29, 210.79.48.0/21^21-29, 110.34.48.0/22^22-29, 113.21.224.0/22^22-29, 202.127.8.0/22^22-29, 210.54.148.0/22^22-29, 210.55.12.0/22^22-29, 120.138.22.0/23^23-29, 202.36.230.0/23^23-29, 202.37.82.0/23^23-29, 202.175.142.0/23^23-29, 192.203.216.0/24^24-29, 202.0.151.0/24^24-29, 202.12.104.0/24^24-29, 202.27.8.0/24^24-29, 202.27.77.0/24^24-29, 202.36.12.0/24^24-29, 202.36.174.0/24^24-29, 202.37.19.0/24^24-29, 202.37.78.0/24^24-29, 202.37.173.0/24^24-29, 202.46.189.0/24^24-29, 202.49.140.0/24^24-29, 202.49.233.0/24^24-29, 202.49.246.0/24^24-29, 202.50.164.0/24^24-29, 202.50.246.0/24^24-29, 202.95.250.0/24^24-29, 202.129.253.0/24^24-29, 210.54.12.0/24^24-29, 210.55.8.0/24^24-29, 210.55.199.0/24^24-29, 202.27.188.128/25^25-29, 210.55.0.0/25^25-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: benny.treefoot(a)team.orcon.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20090817 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------

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Telstraclear international proxy?
by Jethro Carr 14 Aug '09

14 Aug '09

hi all, I am seeing an unusual problem with accessing international sites which I believe is being caused by a proxy on international HTTP access for Telstraclear cable internet users. I was attempting to setup virtualhosts on a new webserver (US based) and added entries to /etc/hosts in order to test the sites before I updated the DNS records. However, any access attempt to the new server on port 80 would just return the current production site, which was running on a different server (also in the US). Confirmed with tcpdump that my packets were leaving my computer for the correct IP. There is no proxy in place on my network. I believe there is some kind of proxy/cache for international traffic from Telstraclear's cable network. The proxy is set up in such a way, it ignores the destination IP address being requested and instead takes the requested hostname, resolves it via DNS and fetches the page from the resolved server IP. DEMONSTRATION If I take an international IP and use it for my browser's proxy settings, I find that I can use that IP as a proxy to access any other international website (but not domestic). eg: 74.125.67.100 (google.com) 212.58.254.252 (bbc.com) Using either IP as a proxy will allow me to reach any other international site, but will not allow access to domestic sites (returns blank page). ASSISTANCE Has anyone seen this problem before or know of any caching being taken place by Telstraclear? Would also be good to know if it's specific to Telstraclear cable customers, or other Telstraclear customers as well. Any advice on how I might be able to query the proxy to identify it's owner would be appreciated. thanks, jethro -- Jethro Carr www.jethrocarr.com/index.php?cms=blog www.amberdms.com

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What is more important? - ipv4 vs. routing table size
by Skeeve Stevens 13 Aug '09

13 Aug '09

Hey all, I'd like to stimulate some discussion regarding IPv4 conservation vs. The size of the routing table. I'd like to hear what people think is more important - and why - which it is more important - or a miz? IPv4 conservation - possibly allocating smaller default allocations - or making it easier (/24, /23) vs. The size or the routing table. If by a more conservative allocation above was done, and the world table jumped to 400, 500 thousands or more routes - what implications would this have on routers and so on. APNIC's minimum is a /22 (was a /19 in 2000) (4 * /24's) ARIN is a /20 to ISPs (16 * /24's) RIPE is a /21 (8 * /24's) LANIC is a /21 (I think) AFRINIC is a /22 (4 * /24's) There are smaller hosting companies out there (here in ANZ at least) that want to be on, hosting, multi-homed, but only need a /24 or /23, but they're given the minimum allocation on a /22 - whether they need it or not. Thoughts? -- Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists skeeve(a)eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954 Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve ; facebook.com/eintellego -- NOC, NOC, who's there? Disclaimer: Limits of Liability and Disclaimer: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain sensitive and private proprietary or legally privileged information. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. eintellego Pty Ltd and each legal entity in the Tefilah Pty Ltd group of companies reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorised to state them to be the views of any such entity. Any reference to costs, fee quotations, contractual transactions and variations to contract terms is subject to separate confirmation in writing signed by an authorised representative of eintellego. Whilst all efforts are made to safeguard inbound and outbound e-mails, we cannot guarantee that attachments are virus-free or compatible with your systems and do not accept any liability in respect of viruses or computer problems experienced.

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KIWICON ]|[ - 2009 - Call For Papers
by Kiwicon <3 12 Aug '09

12 Aug '09

A wise deadite captain once yelled "Cry Havoc and let loose the Dogs of War!". Quite frankly, we couldn't have said it better ourselves: ~~ ~~ || || @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@\___ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ \ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ X___/ \/ KIWICON ]|[ 28TH & 29TH NOVEMBER 2009 With a current record of three arrests, seven conceptions and one committal Kiwicon is back for 2k9. The time has come to fake up an abstract and submit it to the Kiwicon Crue for judgement. In the coming months, we predict you will spend more time dreaming of kudos and UID 0 than actually working on your slides, since you'll be doing them the night before anyway. It's not New Zealand's only security conference, but it is the one where you're more likely to get a standing ovation for scanning an entire country than pointed questions regarding whether you were, perhaps, a little reckless in accessing systems without authorisation. _ _-(")- `%%%%% `KIWICON` // \\ The Crue holds a special place in their bowels for those who are aggravated that Kiwicon is held on a weekend so they don't get time off work. It is a gathering for those who are passionate about security. It has been hacked together by the .nz security scene for the .nz security community. Following in the tradition of previous cons, the atmosphere is extremely laid back; even the feds don't wear suits. Kiwicon is about sharing information. It's about intersections and cross-pollination and dissemination and other nouns disturbing reminiscent of a pre-AIDs key party. Sure, you could bring your RFID readers, your lockpicks or even your back track DVD but mostly you just need to bring yourself and the willingness to learn. For a little con down under we don't do too bad. Previously, Kiwicon has featured: the Crackstation, iKat (last seen at a airport near you), layer two telco shenanigans, a video montage of boardrooms across Japan, old school phreaking on new school kit, exposure of RIM's failure to hide their snooping capabilities, fun with the SCADA systems, making Microsoft look like turkeys, nuking various heap protections from space, and of course fucking up the certificate chain of your new passport. _ _-(")- `%%%%% // \\ `THE VENUE` The Crue is aware that location is everything, so once again we will be invading the Pipitea Campus which is surrounded by prestigious Wellington buildings such as Parliament house, the (partly renovated and badly secured) High Court, Ministry of Defence and various telecommunication hubs. All services are handy to the venue as well (train station, taxi rank, burger caravan, police cells / court etc). Caffeination will be provided by the lovely folks at Sweet Fanny-Anne's. _ _-(")- `%%%%% // \\ `THE PRICE` A recession-proof fifty bucks for the employed. Students and those otherwise supported by our precious taxpayer dollars (this does not include Members of Parliament) will pay $30. GST receipts will be available on request. The Crue will endeavour to leverage its synergies to architect a compelling ROI solution. _ _-(")- `%%%%% // \\ `THE TOPICS` Social networking/automated stalking, Cellular Networks (GSM,2degrees, openbts), State-sponsored surveillance, Malware (Viruses, Botnets), The Scam of EAL Certification, Industrial Espionage, Reverse Engineering, The Failwhale Rider, Virtualisation, Flash mobs, WebApps, 0hday The schedule will be made up as we go, so fifteen minutes or thirty minutes worth of material should be submitted as fifteen or thirty minutes worth of talk. We do place an upper limit of an hour (including questions), as anything longer than that can continue at the pub. _ _-(")- `%%%%% // \\ `SUBMISSIONS` These need to be in by the Witching Hour of the 31st October (NZST). Expats and wanna-be Kiwis will want to get their submissions in by 10th October, when we're going to be announcing the first round of Interesting Stuff. To submit a presentation to Kiwicon2k9, send an email to cfp(a)kiwicon.org with the following information: * Name or Handle: * Country of Residence: * Employer (if applicable): * Presentation Title: * Presentation Length: * Presentation Synopsis: * Brief Bio: If you do not provide a bio, one will be provided for you. _ _-(")- `%%%%% // \\ `BOTTOM LINE` The Crue want you to submit your talk to Kiwicon or the cute little header sheep gets it. _ -(")- `%%%%% // \\ `CONTACT` Email us: kiwicon(a)kiwicon.org Check the site: https://www.kiwicon.org/ Drop by silc: silc.kiwicon.org:2706/kiwicon Join the list: hackers-subscribe(a)kiwicon.org CFP online at https://kiwicon.org/cfp2k9.txt

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Cable cuts in Asia
by Juha Saarinen 12 Aug '09

12 Aug '09

Reading in Commsday and Computerworld Singapore that APCN2, APCN, EAC and SMW3 near Taiwan have developed faults, possibly due to typhoon Morakot. Anyone in NZ noticing the effect of that? -- Juha

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175/8 and 182/8 allocated to APNIC
by Leo Vegoda 12 Aug '09

12 Aug '09

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, The IANA IPv4 registry has been updated to reflect the allocation of two /8 IPv4 blocks to APNIC in August 2009: 175/8 and 182/8. You can find the IANA IPv4 registry at: http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.xml http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.xml http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.txt Please update your filters as appropriate. Regards, Leo Vegoda Number Resources Manager, IANA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 9.10.0.500 wj8DBQFKguZyvBLymJnAzRwRAmDCAKCCnxLNmk32v+sm786x5RyVLnLBDACcCu5I zCs7FdAdkIZRnfNtuVyVB0s= =6huK -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [nznog] Telecom International HTTP Caching
by Paul Tinson 11 Aug '09

11 Aug '09

As a general rule if the content is in a page that gets retrieved by the cache it will be cached and served from the cache to subsequent requests. This includes mp3 files if they are an embedded object. If the mp3 is a single file then I would not expect it to be cached in parts, so it should not be missing pieces. If it's a streaming mp3 that may be different and if you supply an example URL I can check this. If you don't want it cached or want to control the time we keep it in cache then you can use cache control directives and expiry meta tags in the page. At this point in time we have not enabled caching of streaming media. If you have a specific example URL please send it to me and I can double check though. If we have cached it I will look into why. I am happy to look into specific examples of issues, but if you have a wider service effecting issues please continue to use the helpdesk as this will result in calls being handled correctly and not left unattended on the list. Hope this answers your questions. Regards Paul -----Original Message----- From: Richard Hulse [mailto:Richard.Hulse(a)radionz.co.nz] Sent: Wednesday, 12 August 2009 9:00 a.m. To: nznog; Paul Tinson Subject: Re: [nznog] Telecom International HTTP Caching Hi Paul, I'll ask this on the list, as there are quite a few (other) audio and video content providers here... How will the cache handle MP3s that are served via HTTP? Is this content you want to cache? Should we be setting some sort of header to make it work better? Willl you also be caching on-demand Windows Media content? I ask because I have noticed that some of our visitors complain of Mp3 audio that is truncated or has bits missing out of the middle. It seems to clear itself after a few hours. cheers, Richard Hulse Webmaster Radio NZ

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