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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 13 Jun '09

13 Jun '09

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS23655 descr: advertised to AS9439 by SNAP Internet Ltd - AS23655 members: 130.195.0.0/16^16-29, 132.181.0.0/16^16-29, 138.75.0.0/16^16-29, 153.111.0.0/16^16-29, 165.84.0.0/16^16-29, 123.255.0.0/18^18-29, 202.124.96.0/19^19-29, 202.49.16.0/20^20-29, 203.86.192.0/20^20-29, 202.174.112.0/21^21-29, 210.5.48.0/21^21-29, 110.92.16.0/22^22-29, 113.130.120.0/22^22-29, 202.49.72.0/22^22-29, 202.49.92.0/22^22-29, 202.50.104.0/22^22-29, 202.50.124.0/22^22-29, 202.164.28.0/22^22-29, 203.99.132.0/22^22-29, 202.27.186.0/23^23-29, 202.36.178.0/23^23-29, 202.36.220.0/23^23-29, 202.37.96.0/23^23-29, 202.37.100.0/23^23-29, 202.37.124.0/23^23-29, 202.49.90.0/23^23-29, 202.49.120.0/23^23-29, 203.147.108.0/23^23-29, 210.55.30.0/23^23-29, 210.55.206.0/23^23-29, 192.148.221.0/24^24-29, 192.156.225.0/24^24-29, 202.36.163.0/24^24-29, 202.36.170.0/24^24-29, 202.36.219.0/24^24-29, 202.37.114.0/24^24-29, 202.46.187.0/24^24-29, 202.49.115.0/24^24-29, 202.49.125.0/24^24-29, 202.49.187.0/24^24-29, 202.50.117.0/24^24-29, 202.50.169.0/24^24-29, 202.146.186.0/24^24-29, 203.96.112.0/24^24-29, 210.7.40.0/24^24-29, 210.54.15.0/24^24-29, 210.55.4.0/24^24-29, 210.55.7.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc(a)snap.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20090515 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS23655 descr: advertised to AS9439 by Snap Internet Limited - AS23655 members: 111.69.0.0/16^16-29, 130.195.0.0/16^16-29, 132.181.0.0/16^16-29, 138.75.0.0/16^16-29, 153.111.0.0/16^16-29, 165.84.0.0/16^16-29, 123.255.0.0/18^18-29, 202.124.96.0/19^19-29, 202.49.16.0/20^20-29, 203.86.192.0/20^20-29, 202.174.112.0/21^21-29, 210.5.48.0/21^21-29, 110.92.16.0/22^22-29, 113.130.120.0/22^22-29, 202.49.72.0/22^22-29, 202.49.92.0/22^22-29, 202.50.104.0/22^22-29, 202.50.124.0/22^22-29, 202.164.28.0/22^22-29, 203.99.132.0/22^22-29, 202.27.186.0/23^23-29, 202.36.178.0/23^23-29, 202.36.220.0/23^23-29, 202.37.96.0/23^23-29, 202.37.100.0/23^23-29, 202.37.124.0/23^23-29, 202.49.90.0/23^23-29, 202.49.120.0/23^23-29, 203.147.108.0/23^23-29, 210.55.30.0/23^23-29, 210.55.206.0/23^23-29, 192.148.221.0/24^24-29, 192.156.225.0/24^24-29, 202.36.163.0/24^24-29, 202.36.170.0/24^24-29, 202.36.219.0/24^24-29, 202.37.114.0/24^24-29, 202.46.187.0/24^24-29, 202.49.115.0/24^24-29, 202.49.125.0/24^24-29, 202.49.187.0/24^24-29, 202.50.117.0/24^24-29, 202.50.169.0/24^24-29, 202.146.186.0/24^24-29, 203.96.112.0/24^24-29, 210.7.40.0/24^24-29, 210.54.15.0/24^24-29, 210.55.4.0/24^24-29, 210.55.7.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc(a)snap.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20090614 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------

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for the DNS inclined
by bmanning＠vacation.karoshi.com 12 Jun '09

12 Jun '09

With resolution 2009-02-03-04, the ICANN Board asked the Root Server System Advisory Committee (RSSAC), the Security and Stability Advisory Committee (SSAC), and the ICANN staff to study the potential impact on the root zone stability that might arise when IPv6 address records, IDN top level names, other new TLDs, and new records to support DNS security are added to the root zone. The Board has expressed interest in hearing of the impact of the distinct changes, but also their aggregate effect on root zone operations. The Board also asks that the study address the technical and operational concerns regarding expanding the DNS root zone that have been expressed on this topic. A study team has been assembled and is composed of the following: Jaap Akkerhuis Lyman Chapin - Chair Patrik FC$ltstrC6m Glenn Kowack Lars-Johan Liman Bill Manning The goal of the study is to construct a complete, definitive, and authoritative model of the root server system (including all of its provisioning and query components) that shows how the different parts are related, and how changing the value of a variable in one part would affect each of the other parts. It will be as quantitative a model as possible given the relatively short time frame of the study. The idea is not to try to identify all of the bad things that might happen if (for example) the number of TLDs in the root zone were to increase by several orders of magnitude during the same time period in which new RRs were added for DNSSEC (b^@^\how many entries in the root zone is too many?b^@^]), but to construct a model that demonstrates what the effects would be throughout the system of changing the value of one or more variables either individually or in combination (e.g., the rate at which new TLDs are added to the root, or the frequency of key rollover events in a signed root). This model will provide an unbiased factual and analyticalb^@^Trather than anecdotalb^@^Tbasis for recognizing and evaluating concerns about root server system security and stability as the root grows. As a tool for policy makers, it will show the expected impact on the root server system of policy decisions that would change various root zone parameters. The study team has a couple of methods for collecting inputs and encourages interested parties to provide the study team with their concerns. There is a public mailing list: root-scaling(a)icann.org and There is a comment site: +http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/public-comment-200907.html#root-scaling If there are others whom you think would be interested in this work or have opinions/ideas, please pass along this note. Thanks

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fibre and internet providers in Melbourne?
by Thom Hooker 11 Jun '09

11 Jun '09

Good afternoon If anyone has any recommendations (or advice on who to steer clear of) on internet and/or fibre providers over in Melbourne can you please contact me off-list? We're in Tullamarine if that helps. Cheers Thom -- Thom Hooker Director of Operations SMX Ltd http://smx.co.nz

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 11 Jun '09

11 Jun '09

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS24388:RS-ROUTES:AS23655 descr: advertised to AS24388 by SNAP Internet Ltd - AS23655 members: 130.195.0.0/16^16-29, 132.181.0.0/16^16-29, 138.75.0.0/16^16-29, 153.111.0.0/16^16-29, 165.84.0.0/16^16-29, 123.255.0.0/18^18-29, 202.124.96.0/19^19-29, 202.49.16.0/20^20-29, 203.86.192.0/20^20-29, 202.174.112.0/21^21-29, 210.5.48.0/21^21-29, 110.92.16.0/22^22-29, 113.130.120.0/22^22-29, 202.49.72.0/22^22-29, 202.49.92.0/22^22-29, 202.50.104.0/22^22-29, 202.50.124.0/22^22-29, 202.164.28.0/22^22-29, 203.99.132.0/22^22-29, 202.27.186.0/23^23-29, 202.36.178.0/23^23-29, 202.36.220.0/23^23-29, 202.37.96.0/23^23-29, 202.37.100.0/23^23-29, 202.37.124.0/23^23-29, 202.49.90.0/23^23-29, 202.49.120.0/23^23-29, 203.147.108.0/23^23-29, 210.55.30.0/23^23-29, 210.55.206.0/23^23-29, 192.148.221.0/24^24-29, 192.156.225.0/24^24-29, 202.36.163.0/24^24-29, 202.36.170.0/24^24-29, 202.36.219.0/24^24-29, 202.37.114.0/24^24-29, 202.46.187.0/24^24-29, 202.49.115.0/24^24-29, 202.49.125.0/24^24-29, 202.49.187.0/24^24-29, 202.50.117.0/24^24-29, 202.50.169.0/24^24-29, 202.146.186.0/24^24-29, 203.96.112.0/24^24-29, 210.7.40.0/24^24-29, 210.54.15.0/24^24-29, 210.55.4.0/24^24-29, 210.55.7.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc(a)snap.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20090515 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS24388:RS-ROUTES:AS23655 descr: advertised to AS24388 by Snap Internet Limited - AS23655 members: 111.69.0.0/16^16-29, 130.195.0.0/16^16-29, 132.181.0.0/16^16-29, 138.75.0.0/16^16-29, 153.111.0.0/16^16-29, 165.84.0.0/16^16-29, 123.255.0.0/18^18-29, 202.124.96.0/19^19-29, 202.49.16.0/20^20-29, 203.86.192.0/20^20-29, 202.174.112.0/21^21-29, 210.5.48.0/21^21-29, 110.92.16.0/22^22-29, 113.130.120.0/22^22-29, 202.49.72.0/22^22-29, 202.49.92.0/22^22-29, 202.50.104.0/22^22-29, 202.50.124.0/22^22-29, 202.164.28.0/22^22-29, 203.99.132.0/22^22-29, 202.27.186.0/23^23-29, 202.36.178.0/23^23-29, 202.36.220.0/23^23-29, 202.37.96.0/23^23-29, 202.37.100.0/23^23-29, 202.37.124.0/23^23-29, 202.49.90.0/23^23-29, 202.49.120.0/23^23-29, 203.147.108.0/23^23-29, 210.55.30.0/23^23-29, 210.55.206.0/23^23-29, 192.148.221.0/24^24-29, 192.156.225.0/24^24-29, 202.36.163.0/24^24-29, 202.36.170.0/24^24-29, 202.36.219.0/24^24-29, 202.37.114.0/24^24-29, 202.46.187.0/24^24-29, 202.49.115.0/24^24-29, 202.49.125.0/24^24-29, 202.49.187.0/24^24-29, 202.50.117.0/24^24-29, 202.50.169.0/24^24-29, 202.146.186.0/24^24-29, 203.96.112.0/24^24-29, 210.7.40.0/24^24-29, 210.54.15.0/24^24-29, 210.55.4.0/24^24-29, 210.55.7.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc(a)snap.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20090612 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 07 Jun '09

07 Jun '09

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS23655 descr: advertised to AS9560 by SNAP Internet Ltd - AS23655 members: 130.195.0.0/16^16-29, 132.181.0.0/16^16-29, 138.75.0.0/16^16-29, 153.111.0.0/16^16-29, 165.84.0.0/16^16-29, 123.255.0.0/18^18-29, 202.124.96.0/19^19-29, 202.49.16.0/20^20-29, 203.86.192.0/20^20-29, 202.174.112.0/21^21-29, 210.5.48.0/21^21-29, 110.92.16.0/22^22-29, 113.130.120.0/22^22-29, 202.49.72.0/22^22-29, 202.49.92.0/22^22-29, 202.50.104.0/22^22-29, 202.50.124.0/22^22-29, 202.164.28.0/22^22-29, 203.99.132.0/22^22-29, 202.27.186.0/23^23-29, 202.36.178.0/23^23-29, 202.36.220.0/23^23-29, 202.37.96.0/23^23-29, 202.37.100.0/23^23-29, 202.37.124.0/23^23-29, 202.49.90.0/23^23-29, 202.49.120.0/23^23-29, 203.147.108.0/23^23-29, 210.55.30.0/23^23-29, 210.55.206.0/23^23-29, 192.148.221.0/24^24-29, 192.156.225.0/24^24-29, 202.36.163.0/24^24-29, 202.36.170.0/24^24-29, 202.36.219.0/24^24-29, 202.37.114.0/24^24-29, 202.46.187.0/24^24-29, 202.49.115.0/24^24-29, 202.49.125.0/24^24-29, 202.49.187.0/24^24-29, 202.50.117.0/24^24-29, 202.50.169.0/24^24-29, 202.146.186.0/24^24-29, 203.96.112.0/24^24-29, 210.7.40.0/24^24-29, 210.54.15.0/24^24-29, 210.55.4.0/24^24-29, 210.55.7.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc(a)snap.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20090515 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS23655 descr: advertised to AS9560 by SNAP Internet Ltd - AS23655 members: 130.195.0.0/16^16-29, 132.181.0.0/16^16-29, 138.75.0.0/16^16-29, 153.111.0.0/16^16-29, 165.84.0.0/16^16-29, 123.255.0.0/18^18-29, 202.124.96.0/19^19-29, 202.49.16.0/20^20-29, 203.86.192.0/20^20-29, 202.174.112.0/21^21-29, 210.5.48.0/21^21-29, 113.130.120.0/22^22-29, 202.49.72.0/22^22-29, 202.49.92.0/22^22-29, 202.50.104.0/22^22-29, 202.50.124.0/22^22-29, 202.164.28.0/22^22-29, 203.99.132.0/22^22-29, 202.27.186.0/23^23-29, 202.36.178.0/23^23-29, 202.36.220.0/23^23-29, 202.37.96.0/23^23-29, 202.37.100.0/23^23-29, 202.37.124.0/23^23-29, 202.49.90.0/23^23-29, 202.49.120.0/23^23-29, 203.147.108.0/23^23-29, 210.55.30.0/23^23-29, 210.55.206.0/23^23-29, 192.148.221.0/24^24-29, 192.156.225.0/24^24-29, 202.36.163.0/24^24-29, 202.36.170.0/24^24-29, 202.36.219.0/24^24-29, 202.37.114.0/24^24-29, 202.46.187.0/24^24-29, 202.49.115.0/24^24-29, 202.49.125.0/24^24-29, 202.49.187.0/24^24-29, 202.50.117.0/24^24-29, 202.50.169.0/24^24-29, 202.146.186.0/24^24-29, 203.96.112.0/24^24-29, 210.7.40.0/24^24-29, 210.54.15.0/24^24-29, 210.55.4.0/24^24-29, 210.55.7.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc(a)snap.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20090608 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 07 Jun '09

07 Jun '09

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS4826 descr: advertised to AS9560 by Vocus Connect Pty Ltd - AS4826 members: 118.92.0.0/15^15-29, 121.90.0.0/16^16-29, 112.141.0.0/17^17-29, 203.109.128.0/17^17-29, 114.129.128.0/18^18-29, 118.127.0.0/18^18-29, 125.253.0.0/18^18-29, 203.114.128.0/18^18-29, 203.118.128.0/18^18-29, 203.173.128.0/18^18-29, 58.96.128.0/19^19-29, 115.69.160.0/19^19-29, 118.127.64.0/19^19-29, 119.15.0.0/19^19-29, 119.77.64.0/19^19-29, 121.79.192.0/19^19-29, 122.129.128.0/19^19-29, 123.100.128.0/19^19-29, 124.6.192.0/19^19-29, 125.213.160.0/19^19-29, 202.60.64.0/19^19-29, 202.62.128.0/19^19-29, 202.171.160.0/19^19-29, 203.89.64.0/19^19-29, 203.96.192.0/19^19-29, 203.152.96.0/19^19-29, 203.173.192.0/19^19-29, 203.201.128.0/19^19-29, 113.192.0.0/20^20-29, 114.31.192.0/20^20-29, 115.146.64.0/20^20-29, 116.66.160.0/20^20-29, 116.213.32.0/20^20-29, 118.127.176.0/20^20-29, 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APNIC 28 Early Bird Registration Now Open
by Elly Tawhai 02 Jun '09

02 Jun '09

_______________________________________________________________________ APNIC 28 Early Bird Registration Now Open _______________________________________________________________________ Hi NZNOG Community, APNIC and CNNIC warmly invite you to join us for APNIC 28 at the Grand Hyatt, Beijing, from 25 to 28 August 2009. Hosted in one of the most dynamic cities in the region, attending APNIC 28 is an excellent opportunity to develop your networking skills and build business relationships. Early Bird Registration ----------------------- Registration for APNIC 28 is opening soon with discounts for early registration of up to 25 per cent. APNIC and CNNIC are also offering a fantastic prize of a portable mini PC for early bird registrations. Note, a convenient gateway is available for credit card payments. http://meetings.apnic.net/28/register Apply for your Visa ------------------- Unless you are a national of Singapore, Brunei, and Japan, you will need to apply for a visa to enter mainland China. Visas usually last for 30 days and must be used within 3 months of issue. Note, your passport must be valid for at least six months after the date you intend to enter to country. http://meetings.apnic.net/28/beijing/visas Speak at APNIC 28 ----------------- APNIC and CNNIC are looking for informational presentations with interesting and topical operational content that will benefit the larger Internet community. If you would like to contribute, here are some potential topics for you to consider: - Four-byte AS numbers - IPv6 real world experiences - ISP and carrier services such as: - Fibre to the home (FTTH) and other 'all optical' deployments - Large network deployments - Next Generation telephony Submit a brief summary of your proposal (two to four paragraphs) or a set of presentation slides to policy(a)apnic.net by 31 July 2009. Final Presentation slides are due on 14 August 2009. How do I find out more about APNIC 28? -------------------------------------- For more information about APNIC meetings, and how you can attend, please see: http://meetings.apnic.net Kind regards, Elly ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Elly Tawhai email: elly(a)apnic.net Senior Internet Resource Analyst/ sip: elly(a)voip.apnic.net Liaison Officer(Pacific), APNIC phone: +61 7 3858 3188 http://www.apnic.net fax: +61 7 3858 3199 ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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The New Zealand Network Operators' Group
by Donald Neal 01 Jun '09

01 Jun '09

The New Zealand Network Operators' Group The NZNOG mailing list exists to facilitate discussion among operators of networks in New Zealand on matters relevant to network operators as described in the list's Acceptable Use Policy. That policy appears later in this posting. The NZNOG Trust exists to provide the legal framework needed to do jobs like operating the bank account which holds the money which allows our annual conferences to happen. The Trust is not yet GST registered, but work is under way to bring that about. Conference In the NZNOG conference, the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups. The trust, which is responsible for where the money goes, and the organising committee who do most of the actual work. See http://2009.nznog.org/ for details of this year's conference. Discussions are under way between the organising committee and potential hosts of the 2010 conference. Other Meetings See http://thursdaynightcurry.com/ if you live in or near Auckland or Wellington. Operators' Contact List See http://www.nznog.org/?page_id=6 for operational contact details for most New Zealand ISP's. These are intended for use by other network operators, not by most customers. Internet Exchanges See http://www.nzix.net/ for details of exchanges in operation. About This Mailing List This list has around 1000 addresses subscribed. You may only post to the list from a subscribed address. A number of people subscribe addresses which do not receive email purely to allow posting from them. You may choose to receive postings as they come in, or just to receive daily "digests". See the bottom of the page http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog/ to change the form in which you receive postings. The NZNOG mailing list is provided through a server at The University of Waikato, and is administered by employees of APN Online, Citylink, and The University of Waikato. None of these organisations, nor any administrator, is responsible for its content. NZNOG Mailing List Acceptable Use Policy The NZNOG mailing list exists to provide a forum for the exchange of technical information and the discussion of implementation issues that require cooperation among New Zealand network service providers. In order to continue to provide a useful forum for discussion of relevant technical issues, users of the list are asked to respect the following guidelines. 1. Discussion will focus on Internet operational and technical issues. 2. Discussion related to meetings of network service providers is appropriate. 3. Discussion unrelated to these topics is not appropriate. 4. Postings to multiple mailing lists are discouraged. 5. Postings that include foul language, character assassination, and lack of respect for other participants are unacceptable. 6. Blatant product or service marketing is unacceptable. 7. Postings of a political, philosophical or legal nature are discouraged. 8. Postings to the list should be in ASCII or MIME encoded as text/plain. Attachments should not be sent to the list. To present a document, a suitable URL may be referred to. For documents of general interest, the use of proprietary file formats is discouraged. 9. Breaches of list etiquette should be dealt with privately with the offending list user, and should not result in complaints being sent to the list. 10. A person repeatedly breaching list etiquette shall receive warnings from the list administrator. A further breach after the second such warning within thirty days shall result in the offender being unsubscribed from the list. Other action may also be taken to block postings to the list by the offender. Any such unsubscription is to be immediately announced to the list. Mailing List Archives A full archive is available at http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/nznog/ . Any message sent to the list will be archived and made available on the web automatically. Changes are not made to the archive on request, though the administrators remain happy to assist the Office of the Privacy Commissioner should any complaint be laid with that office. One way to search the archive is to use google and prefix your search with site:list.waikato.ac.nz . Subscribing to the List See http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog to subscribe. Donald Neal NZNOG Mailing List Owner/Administrator/Muggins -- Donald Neal | "Careful design and strict discipline are Research Officer | necessary to prevent this sort of mess WAND | from escaping the development laboratory The University of Waikato | and infesting the production environment." | - D. Russell

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Working Culture in New Zealand
by Christiaan Theron 01 Jun '09

01 Jun '09

Thanks to everybody that replied. On a different note I would appreciate the opinion of the list on : What are the advantages and disadvantages of working in IT in NZ? Thanks to Gary Benner for that. Chris

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Re: [nznog] Working Culture in IT.
by Gary T. Benner 31 May '09

31 May '09

[Reply] At 08:41 on 1/06/2009 you wrote >I am researching working culture in IT. What does the list dislike about >working in New Zealand? Ask a negative question and you'll get a negative answer - how about re-phrasing the question in a more balanced way, such as "what are the advantages and disadvantages of working in IT in NZ? " kr Gary Ref#: 41006

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