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Save your money and hassle
by John ＠ netTRUST 16 Apr '07

16 Apr '07

We exclusively use SMS modems here. The Wavecom is the best you can buy and only slightly dearer then the cheaper models. http://www.itx.co.nz/index.php?cPath=29 is a company I've dealt with before and they are allright.

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Re: [nznog] Email to SMS gateway
by Philip D'Ath 16 Apr '07

16 Apr '07

Actually, SMS does offer "guaranteed" delivery. It doesn't matter if the phone is off, an error occurs in communication, a data circuit goes down ... However there are limits. If the message cannot be delivered (such as end device failure) then you can request a receipt to get notification of this. I don't recall ever noticing a lag of hours for SMS delivery (I don't ever recall a TXT taking more than 60s to be delivered) but I guess different TXT processing systems use different methods for getting the TXT into the network for delivery. -----Original Message----- From: Jasper Bryant-Greene [mailto:j(a)digiweb.net.nz] Sent: Tuesday, 17 April 2007 11:15 a.m. To: Philip D'Ath Cc: Samuel Collinson; Dan Clark; NZ Network Operators Group Subject: Re: [nznog] Email to SMS gateway On this - we have found SMS to be a bit unreliable lately, with messages being delivered hours late or not at all. I am aware that SMS does not provide "guaranteed delivery" - what methods are others on this list using to send alerts reliably? Cheers Jasper

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Affordable Voltage Monitoring over Ethernet?
by Dan Clark 16 Apr '07

16 Apr '07

Gidday, Just wondering if any network operators etc here are using or have seen any kind of device that can measure voltage/current out there somewhere on a network and we can interrogate it remotely and may even send alerts etc if drops below threshold etc? Would have to be resonably affordable, and in simple kit form or off the shelf. If nothing available that anyone can think of I may develop something along these lines, cheap, simple, ethernet, and probably 12V Open for discussion if anyone remotely interested. Regards Dan

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MP3 streaming data usage
by John ＠ netTRUST 15 Apr '07

15 Apr '07

Anyone have any idea how much data would be consumed each day streaming MP3 at 128kbps audio stream rate? Thanks.

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Re: [nznog] MP3 streaming data usage
by Richard Naylor 15 Apr '07

15 Apr '07

At 03:38 p.m. 16/04/2007 +1200, Neil Gardner wrote: >Ergh... Hate to say this, but don't you have that 10 bits to the byte >thing approximately ass-backwards? No. As I said, I come from an Ancient World (TM), where we debugged protocols like DDCMP with a Tek Logic Analayser, scope or logic probe. None of this Ethereal stuff, ethernet hadn't escaped from PARC and Vint was still drawing on envelopes. RS-232 was modern, current loop was till very active (sorry, no pun intended). (Probably Michael Newberry is the only one who will get it anyway, Andy and Sid say they're too young, and the others are looking blank) Each Byte is (or was) a START bit, 8 data bits, PARITY and a STOP or IDLE bit. So we always approximated it to 10 bits. (different devices handle parity bits different ways, it used to be that if there was no parity, no bit was used. LSI USARTS started the trend towards always having a bit used. This is a world where a serial port took up a whole UNIBUS slot (ie a card 400mm by 200mm). As I said, its an approximation for budgeting purposes and comes from an ancient era. Have you found the beer yet ? R

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Re: [nznog] Affordable Voltage Monitoring over Ethernet?
by Richard Naylor 15 Apr '07

15 Apr '07

At 04:10 p.m. 16/04/2007 +1200, Dan Clark wrote: >Gidday, > Just wondering if any network operators etc here are using or have seen > any kind of device that can measure voltage/current out there somewhere > on a network and we can interrogate it remotely and may even send alerts > etc if drops below threshold etc? >Would have to be resonably affordable, and in simple kit form or off the >shelf. > >If nothing available that anyone can think of I may develop something >along these lines, cheap, simple, ethernet, and probably 12V >Open for discussion if anyone remotely interested. google for a Link-10 or Link-20, I think they now do ethernet, it used to be serial, but you just chucked in a Lantronix thingy

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Re: [nznog] MP3 streaming data usage
by Richard Naylor 15 Apr '07

15 Apr '07

At 02:49 p.m. 16/04/2007 +1200, Neil Gardner wrote: >Dammit - I know we've been asked to stop this, but now something >interesting has happened... you found the beer ? >Richard, you, who I know has great experience in this, have posted >figures that are UNDER my very basic but probably right theoretical >minimums > >How do you fit 3600 seconds at 128kbps into 46MB ? I get 56.25MB... I have this ancient spreadsheet with a few assumptions.... I basically round 10bits to the byte to cover overheads in the packet, etc. So a data rate of say 128kbps is 12.8KB per sec or 0.13Mbps 768KB per minute or 7.68Mbps 46080 KB per hour or 460.9 Mbps or 46.08 MBytes per hour Remembering that you will get silence and various other things (outages, etc) it will always be an approximation. It just gives you a feel for the order of magnitude of the bill :-) Most stations actually have a second stream in reserve for special "promotional" occassions and they kick them into life every now and then, just to muck up the stats. The biggest use of it has been to work out that a 10GB plan is OK for radio stations at 32Kbps streams. Now that 40+GB plans are out, folks are looking at webcams again and it looks like we can stream a camera and stay inside a 40GB plan at 128k video, which isn't too bad looking. I should probably rework the spreadsheet for HD streams at 10Mbps. It looks like 5TB a month. And yes, IPV6 and multicast will solve all our problems, including world hunger and the endless shortage of beer. But I'm showing my age......

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Re: [nznog] IPv6 Incentive
by Scott Weeks 14 Apr '07

14 Apr '07

--- andy(a)nosignal.org wrote:---------------- ip is a means to an end, I don't craft packets for fun, I do work or have fun, and ip occurs as a way to send my messages from A to B. --------------------------------------------- ding, ding, ding! From the many lists discussing these issues recently, we finally have a winner! Most folk don't care about v4, v6, v8 or v<insert stuff here>. They want to do something and they 'just want it to work'. 99.999% couldn't give less than a crap how that happens. scott BTW 6,525,170,264 x .00001 = 65250 That's this: World — Population: 6,525,170,264 (July 2006 est.) https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/print/xx.html times one minus five nines 65250 is about how many of there are who do give more than a crap about how that happens. Beer...MMMM... 8-)

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[Fwd: Re: IPv6 Incentive]
by Gerard Creamer 12 Apr '07

12 Apr '07

On 13/04/2007 4:24 p.m., Craig Whitmore wrote: >> I'm not a porn fan myself, but from other types of media, 10G isn't that >> much. >> Maybe if they put 1TB of porn and 1TB of free tv content from a major >> studio, then we'd have an experiment. >> Would it be better to be Geek TV (Dr Who, Firefly, etc) or Jo Public TV (Lost, Grey's Anatomy, all 500 seasons of Coro St etc)? I think Geek TV would get more drive for it. Like it would happen though. >> > > There is some content at http://www.ipv6porn.co.nz. (If you have IPv6) Looking at http://www.v6.co.nz/ on the 'Who Provides IPv6' there's nothing - is there an NZ provider of IPv6? I know this topic has come up on the list before, and it usually degrades in circular discussions - it would be nice to hear 'Yes, ISP X offers IP6 within NZ'. Without anyone spieling on about the glories of their own wares, of course :^) Gerard

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New Sepctrum Auction
by Paul Horak 12 Apr '07

12 Apr '07

Plans for auctioning the 2.3Ghz band for BWA/WiMAX have been published: http://www.rsm.govt.nz/auctions/auction09/index.html I think there is a real opportunity here for some of us to get access to spectrum. At present the lions share (or possibly all of it) will go to two or three companies to build a nationwide network. There is also a proposal to allocate some spectrum for regional operators under a "Managed Park". I suspect there are quite a few people interested in this who have not yet been in contact with RSM - it is essential that you let RSM know your interest and you respond to this consultation document. If the vast majority of comments come from the large providers wishing to deploy nationwide networks then I suspect there will be little or no regional spectrum available. I would also be grateful if you can contact me off list if you have an interest in obtaining spectrum for regional use. I have some ideas that might help our cause that I would like to share. Cheers, Paul NetSmart Ltd http://www.netsmart.co.nz/, Level 2, Regency House, 1 Elizabeth Street, P O Box 15020, Tauranga, New Zealand Tel: 07 5711367 Fax: 07 5711372

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