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More Key Signing Stuff
by Joe Abley 09 Feb '05

09 Feb '05

Begin anonymous forwarded message: > I'm going to really prove my ignorance when it comes to all things > pgp. Now that we've done the verification as to who's who, and > everyone owns their own key, what does one do, so sign someone elses > key, or get their key signed by someone else ( should they want to ). I kind of forgot to talk about what we do after we were finished with all the hexadecimal and drivers licences. So here we go: 1. Download the public key ring from buglumber and import it. 2. For each person whose identified you are satisfied with, check the fingerprint on the downloaded keyring against the sheet of verified fingerprints. 3. If you feel like it, sign the key with yours. This is a convenient way to record the fact that you have verified the accuracy of the key. 4. If you feel like it, send the signed public key back to the person who gave it to you. This provides an additional path through the web of trust for people to trust your key, and is generally a handy thing to have. 5. If you feel like it, upload the key with your signature to one or more key servers. This is good for the same reasons that 4 is good. Lather, rinse, repeat for all keys.

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How many ISP's charge their customers to query DNS?
by Chris Hodgetts 09 Feb '05

09 Feb '05

I know this is a "consumer" question, but I find it very strange... Quote from the Paradise Help Desk Email system when questioned about why I was being charged to access kirsty.paradise.net.nz , their secondary DNS Server... "Kirsty is our secondary DNS server, you will get charged traffic connecting to our DNS servers." Any other people working for ISP's wanna comment on if they charge? I know, from what Xtra's support staff said, they don't.. I just find it really hard to believe.

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Denial of Service Attacks
by Anaru Hartley 08 Feb '05

08 Feb '05

Has anyone noticed a surge in DDOS attacks from Asia? One of the Windoze servers I look after has been getting rather nailed these past few days. Most appear to be coming from Japan - at least 5 a day and every time within a few minutes of each other, lasting a minute or two. If I am really lucky, I'll get 20 in one day ... somebody loves me :-)

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Re: [nznog] pop from xtra adsl]
by Gavin Legge 08 Feb '05

08 Feb '05

Thanks for the reply's. I imagine it is a problem with the local setup at the customer site. just wanted to get an idea from the experts before i went there.. Thanks again for the reply cheers Gavin PS - if anyone is interested in a job at DTS as 'technical guy' I'll possibly be leaving soon and I'm sure the boss here would love to hear from you. -- Kind Regards Gavin Legge Technical Manager DTS Limited phone +64 4914 5946 email gavin(a)dts.net.nz cellphone 021 441 299

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RE: [Nznog-org] RE: [nznog] NZNOG 06 - Potential Hosts.
by Peters MCS Mail 08 Feb '05

08 Feb '05

Donald, I was assuming usual timescales when I made the offer - around end Jan/early Feb to make use of available student accommodation. However I'll investigate whether we can be a venue to work around ICANN on 27-31 March as indicated by Keith as that is a very attractive proposition. The issue is that it is in the middle of trimester 1 so our large lecture theatres are generally booked and student accommodation not available. It is more likely to be feasible for 3rd onwards as that is the last week before Easter. Give me a few days to investigate whether this can be arranged. Peter Dr. Peter Komisarczuk School of Mathematics, Statistics and Computer Science Victoria University of Wellington Wellington peterk(a)mcs.vuw.ac.nz Tel: +64 4 463 5661 -----Original Message----- From: nznog-org-admin(a)list.usenet.net.nz [mailto:nznog-org-admin(a)list.usenet.net.nz] On Behalf Of Donald Neal Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 8:21 AM To: Peters MCS Mail Cc: nznog-org(a)list.usenet.net.nz Subject: [Nznog-org] RE: [nznog] NZNOG 06 - Potential Hosts. Peter, Thanks for the offer. When are you offering to host a conference? Or put another way, are you offering to host something aroubnd the time of ICANN (early March 2006) or at another time when cheap accommodation si available? If the later, when roughly is that? - Donald Neal Donald Neal |Do not look directly at laser with Technical Specialist |remaining good eye. NGN Operations | - Bill Manning Integration & Services Division +----------------------------------- Alcatel NZ Ltd - Telecom's network operations manager > -----Original Message----- > From: Peters MCS Mail [mailto:peterk(a)mcs.vuw.ac.nz] > Sent: Tuesday, 8 February 2005 5:03 p.m. > To: 'nznog' > Subject: RE: [nznog] NZNOG 06 - Potential Hosts. > > Simon, > > We'd be happy to host NZNOG 06 at VUW if Wellington is seen as a > reasonable venue. We know there are those who might prefer more > "neutral - driving distance from Auckland" ground, so won't > be offended > if the venue goes to someone else. > > Cheers > > Peter > > Dr. Peter Komisarczuk > School of Mathematical and Computing Sciences > Victoria University of Wellington > Wellington > peterk(a)mcs.vuw.ac.nz > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Simon Lyall [mailto:simon(a)darkmere.gen.nz] > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 2:29 PM > To: nznog > Subject: [nznog] NZNOG 06 - Potential Hosts. > > > We are looking for potential hosts for NZNOG 06 in around a > year's time. > > If you think that you ( or an organization you are associated with) > might > want to host nznog next year then you should probably start thinking > seriously about it soon. > > We will probably send out a more formal call within the next > week or two > so the decision is made some time in March. > > We already have one early expression of interest. > > If you have questions about what is involved etc then the organizing > people or the WAND group can probably answer them. > > People can probably also suggest possible themes, formats and speakers > at > this point as well. Personally I vote for an on-site Masseuse. > > Email to me (I can summarized or forward) , the list or whoever. > > -- > Simon J. Lyall. | Very Busy | Mail: simon(a)darkmere.gen.nz > "To stay awake all night adds a day to your life" - Stilgar | eMT. > > _______________________________________________ > NZNOG mailing list > NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > > _______________________________________________ > NZNOG mailing list > NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. Please note that this communication does not designate an information system for the purposes of the Electronic Transactions Act 2002." ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ _______________________________________________ nznog-org mailing list nznog-org(a)list.usenet.net.nz http://usenet.net.nz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nznog-org

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NZNOG 06 - Potential Hosts.
by Simon Lyall 07 Feb '05

07 Feb '05

We are looking for potential hosts for NZNOG 06 in around a year's time. If you think that you ( or an organization you are associated with) might want to host nznog next year then you should probably start thinking seriously about it soon. We will probably send out a more formal call within the next week or two so the decision is made some time in March. We already have one early expression of interest. If you have questions about what is involved etc then the organizing people or the WAND group can probably answer them. People can probably also suggest possible themes, formats and speakers at this point as well. Personally I vote for an on-site Masseuse. Email to me (I can summarized or forward) , the list or whoever. -- Simon J. Lyall. | Very Busy | Mail: simon(a)darkmere.gen.nz "To stay awake all night adds a day to your life" - Stilgar | eMT.

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Webcasting FYI - Parliament
by Richard Naylor 07 Feb '05

07 Feb '05

FYI - TVNZ today started streaming Question Time (aka playtime) live from Parliament today. The links are available hidden in the TVNZ website under news -> politics -> 3rd column -> hidden word "live". The video is also being archived in case you missed something....... And its all multi-bit rate - including a stunning 2mbps stream. (must get better cameras) Bringing this back on topic..... it needs a bit better publicity than the current web page, and Network Operators Help Desks may need to explain why a 2mbps stream looks so much better than 56kbps as well as the usual questions like - "why don't I get sound" (coz you haven't turned on the speakers) etc. Congratulations to the folks at TVNZ - a great job. Just look at that 2mbps stream. <sigh> rich

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Re: [nznog] More Key Signing Stuff
by Ewen McNeill 06 Feb '05

06 Feb '05

In message <200502071721.05162.mark(a)mcs.vuw.ac.nz>, Mark Davies writes: >So from the key signing party we should be in the position that for anyone we >have verified we are happy that the pgp key we have the fingerprint for is >indeed for the person we met but the one thing that the process hasn't done >is confirm that all the email addresses listed in the key are under the >control of that person. > >To achieve this last step here is a process (lifted from the NetBSD developers >PGP guidelines): [...] I agree that the "keysigning" party approach generally bypasses actually confirming the email addresses really belong to the person in control of the key. (Which is unfortunate as the email address tends to be one of the more trusted parts.) The usual approach I've seen to confirm that the email address is correct is to send the signed key to the email address listed, encrypted with the key. And not upload the key/signature to a key server. That way only the person in control of both the email address (used) and the key is able to gain access to the signature, and it's not visible to anyone else until they've done so. The NetBSD approach seems to go further and confirm all the uids, providing one follows the elaborate process of tracking each "challenge" that is sent out against the particular uid it belongs to. But I'm not sure it's always necessary if one only signs uids one has other reasons to know are associated with the person in question. (I generally avoid signing uids for which I don't recognise the email address, for instance, unless it's the one to which the key is being sent.) As it happens I've already seen half a dozen new signatures for my key uploaded to the keyservers and not emailed to me, so those people presumably trust the email address for other reasons. Ewen

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Thanks
by Lin Nah 06 Feb '05

06 Feb '05

Thanks to Richard Nelson, Jamie Curtis, Perry Lorier, Leslie and the other folk for organising NZNOG05 and being such wonderful hosts. Thanks To Donald Neal, Joe Abley and other organisers for setting up the programme Thanks to the sponsors who contributed to making it happen. InternetNZ, Citylink, WAND, U of Waikato Juniper, 2day.com, APNIC, De Winter and others I have missed out (but I am sure those at WAND will add to the list). Last but not least Thanks to all who made it there (some despite problems with transport etc). Without the attendees, there would have been no nznog meet. lin

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Re: [nznog] Thanks
by Jonny Martin 06 Feb '05

06 Feb '05

...and thanks to Lin for organising large mounds of people, beer, and food at the unofficial dinners. An enjoyable time had by all I am sure. Cheers, Jonny.

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