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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 12 Jan '05

12 Jan '05

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. --- OBJECT BELOW CREATED: aut-num: AS9483 as-name: NZRR-AS9483 descr: Flatnet descr: WIX peering at '202.7.0.119' descr: see Citylink RT job #1715 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR import: from AS9439 accept ANY AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS9439 announce AS9483 notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: routing(a)flatnet.gen.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20050113 source: NZRR --- OBJECT BELOW CREATED: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS9483 descr: Route set advertised to AS9439 by Flatnet - AS9483 members: 203.97.150.0/24^24-29, 202.0.32.48/29, 202.0.32.88/29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: routing(a)flatnet.gen.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20050113 source: NZRR

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APNIC's Training in conjunction with NZNOG'05 Conference
by APNIC Training 11 Jan '05

11 Jan '05

Dear NZNOG Members, APNIC is pleased to invite you to attend APNIC's Training in conjunction with the New Zealand Network Operators Group Conference 2005 as follows: "APNIC Internet Resource Management Essentials" Date: 02 February 2005 Time: Please refer to http://www.nznog.org/index.php. Venue: University of Waikato, Knighton Road, Hamilton, New Zealand Tel: +64 7 838 4466 Who should attend? ------------------ The target audience is technical personnel who are responsible for allocating and/or assigning IP addresses. For example, hostmaster employees of network information centers or ISPs, network planners, designers, and network engineers. Good understanding of networking fundamentals is assumed and upon completion a certificate of participation will be provided. Course Fee: ----------- For registration and other details at http://www.nznog.org/registration.php. A full abstract of the training course is also available at http://www.nznog.org/abstract/irme.pdf . For more information, please visit to http://www.nznog.org/index.php. Best regards, The APNIC Training Team ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ APNIC Training <training(a)apnic.net> Asia Pacific Network Information Centre Tel: +61-7-38583100 http://www.apnic.net Fax: +61-7-38583199 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ See you at APNIC 19 18 - 25 February 2005 Kyoto International Conference Hall (KICH) Kyoto, Japan http://www.apnic.net/meetings/19/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Talk Topic for me.
by Simon Lyall 09 Jan '05

09 Jan '05

Looks like I'll be doing a lightning (3-10 minute) talk at nznog this year since there are a couple of 5 minutes gaps. While I've got a fallback topic I'm wondering if anyone has anything they would be particularly like me to talk about. Maybe random email or Usenet stuff, system admin and design, cornflakes, curry, political or historical stuff. Pop me an email and I'll see how they look. No promises since (a) schedule is not confirmed yet and (b) I suspect some suggestions might be "unsuitable" . -- Simon J. Lyall. | Very Busy | Mail: simon(a)darkmere.gen.nz "To stay awake all night adds a day to your life" - Stilgar | eMT.

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ISP Details
by barry＠unix.co.nz 07 Jan '05

07 Jan '05

Hey guys, Im looking for the following details which will be published in an ispmap within the next month. Please reply off list with the ISP name in the subject of the email. ISP: URL: Telephone number: Fax Number: Dialin Number: POP3 Server: SMTP Server: Email Address: Postal Address: AS Number: Upstream Provider(s): The map will be on ispmap.co.nz and will show ISPs international connectivity. For an example of a generated map, please see http://www.ispmap.org.za/topmap.html . Im working with Gregory (author of ispmap.org.za) to add further functionality to the site. Thanks Kindest Regards Barry Murphy ------------------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through UnixCo Webmail: http://www.unix.co.nz/

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calling wellington internet historians
by Joe Abley 06 Jan '05

06 Jan '05

Does anybody happen to remember when peering between ISPs in Wellington using network 10 addresses started happening? I remember Craig Anderson circulating a draft document reserving chunks of 10/8 for people, and some talk about static ARP, but I don't remember when it was. The current address block used on the WIX (202.7.0.0/23) was pulled out of Rex Croft's magic bag of spare addresses in July 1998, according to the list archives, so it was before then. If I was to document a start date for the WIX (e.g. "first BGP session between ISPs was set up", or maybe "first packet was exchanged between citylink/CNHL customers", or something) what would it be? Joe

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NGN survey
by M. Salim KETEVANLIOGLU 04 Jan '05

04 Jan '05

Dear list members, I am working for Turkish NRA and studying for "NGN migration strategies and regulation" and "country applications". I plan to conduct a survey for incumbent operators and application creators for NGN. I would like to contact persons working ngn related in incumbents and application creators. Kind regards, M. Salim KETEVANLIOGLU Telecommunication Assistant Expert Telecommunications Authority Ankara / TURKEY +90 312 550 50 68

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NZNOG 05'
by Joshua Brady 04 Jan '05

04 Jan '05

Hello all, I am booking my flight a bit late, but need to know what airport is going to be easiest to get to from the US. I will be flying KRIC to KLAS for NANOG, then want to transfer over to NZNOG from there (leaving early 02/01/05). Can anyone advise me on what exact airport I'll need to take? Then travel plans from there? Thanks, Joshua Brady

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Re: [nznog] NZNOG 05'
by Ewen McNeill 04 Jan '05

04 Jan '05

In message <F63658CB-5E83-11D9-BF97-000D93B24C7A(a)isc.org>, Joe Abley writes: >On 4 Jan 2005, at 13:52, Joshua Brady wrote: >> One last question I have no problems driving in NZ with a US Licence? > >Your hire car will have three pedals instead of two; there will be this >strange lever in the middle that you use to change gears; the steering >wheel will be on the wrong side; the fuel will be called "petrol" >instead of "gas"; there will be roundabouts and the roads will actually >have bends in them. You can, and possibly should, ask for an automatic when you book your hire car, rather than a manual (stick shift). An automatic will restore the number of pedals to two (accelerator (gas) and brake), and remove the need to use the strange lever in the middle to change gears (well apart from selecting drive/park/reverse). I suspect at least half of most hire fleets are automatics so it shouldn't be too difficult to get one. Unfortunately the steering wheel will continue to be on the right hand side of the car, which you should consider a reminder to drive on the left hand side of the road :-) New Zealand roads specialise in bends, and from memory the Auckland -> Hamilton road is also through fairly rolling country so you'll have both gentle hills and bends to help keep you awake. You may also wish to keep in mind that speed limits are in kilometres per hour (not miles per hour), and speed limits are enforced with speed cameras in various (sometimes hidden) places; fortunately any hire car you get will also have a speedo showing kilometres per hour so it's just a matter of matching up the numbers. >Your US licence will be fine though, as far as I know :-) http://www.newzealand.com/travel/transport/driving-in-nz/driving-in-new-zea… It appears that providing your licence is current in the US, and you carry it with you (at all times while driving) you can drive in NZ for up to 12 months without a problem. Ewen

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Re: [nznog] NZNOG 05'
by Ewen McNeill 04 Jan '05

04 Jan '05

In message <6cdc2eb4050104075957b23612(a)mail.gmail.com>, Joshua Brady writes: >I am booking my flight a bit late, but need to know what airport is >going to be easiest to get to from the US. I will be flying KRIC to >KLAS for NANOG, then want to transfer over to NZNOG from there >(leaving early 02/01/05). Can anyone advise me on what exact airport >I'll need to take? Then travel plans from there? Keep in mind that 1 Feburary 2005 Pacific Time is 2 Feburary 2005 in New Zealand for most of the day (all but 5 hours). And the US->New Zealand flight crosses the date line. So if you leave LAX on the evening of 1 Feburary 2005 you'll arrive in New Zealand on the morning of _3_ Feburary 2005, effectively missing out on 2 Feburary 2005 completely. As the NZNOG conference starts with tutorials on 2 Feburary, and the main conference on 3 February that doesn't leave you much spare time. Given that you have limited time, the best option is most likely to fly into AKL (Auckland, New Zealand) which is the closest major international airport. Then drive from there to Hamilton as Joe suggests. The flight will get in around 06:00 in New Zealand, and the drive will take about 2 hours, so you'll arrive just before the main NZNOG conference assuming you leave the US on the evening of 1 Feburary 2005. Both Qantas and Air New Zealand fly LAX->AKL daily, and most major US airlines code share those flights.[0] If you can get a good deal it may be worth considering flying into CHC (Christchurch, New Zealand), and getting a connecting flight from CHC to HLZ (Hamilton, New Zealand). HLZ is the closest airport to the conference (about 15 minutes in a taxi), but has limited international flights (mainly only from Australia). There are fairly regular connecting flights from CHC -> HLZ throughout the day with Air New Zealand and some with Origin Pacific; the connecting flights would take about 1 hour. If you had more time you could consider flying via Australia (BNE (Brisbane), SYD (Sydney) or MEL (Melbourne)), but the US-> Australia flight takes about 3-4 hours longer than US->AKL, and the Australia -> New Zealand flights take about 4 hours. With connections it'd probably add 10-12 hours to the travel time, which you don't have spare. Ewen [0] There are a few flights from AKL->HLZ (Hamilton, New Zealand -- the closest airport to the conference) daily, taking about 30 minutes flying time, but the first one is 11:50 so it's not much use to you.

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The New Zealand Network Operators' Group
by Donald Neal 01 Jan '05

01 Jan '05

The New Zealand Network Operators' Group The New Zealand Network Operators' Group (NZNOG) has no king, president or formal membership. At present it consists of the subscribers to this mailing list, which anyone is free to join. Conference Our next annual conference is to be hosted by the WAND group in Hamilton on February 2nd to 4th. That's less than five weeks away. See http://www.nznog.org/ for more information and to REGISTER NOW. Other Meetings See http://auckland.thursdaynightcurry.com/ or http://wellington.thursdaynightcurry.com/ if you live in or near Auckland or Wellington. Operators' Contact List See http://www.usenet.net.nz/noc/ for operational contact details for most New Zealand ISP's. These are intended for use by other network operators, not by most customers. Internet Exchanges See http://www.nzix.net.nz/ for details of the Auckland, Palmerston North and Wellington exchanges, and some information on others under construction. About This Mailing List This list has around 750 addresses subscribed. You may only post to the list from a subscribed address. A number of people subscribe addresses which do not receive email purely to allow posting from them. You may choose to receive postings as they come in, or just to receive daily "digests". See the bottom of the page http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog/ to change the form in which you receive postings. The NZNOG mailing list is provided through a server at The University of Waikato, and is administered by employees of Alcatel NZ Ltd, Citylink and Telecom. None of these organisations, nor any administrator, is responsible for its content. NZNOG Mailing List Acceptable Use Policy The NZNOG mailing list exists to provide a forum for the exchange of technical information and the discussion of implementation issues that require cooperation among New Zealand network service providers. In order to continue to provide a useful forum for discussion of relevant technical issues, users of the list are asked to respect the following guidelines. 1. Discussion will focus on Internet operational and technical issues. 2. Discussion related to meetings of network service providers is appropriate. 3. Discussion unrelated to these topics is not appropriate. 4. Postings to multiple mailing lists are discouraged. 5. Postings that include foul language, character assassination, and lack of respect for other participants are unacceptable. 6. Blatant product or service marketing is unacceptable. 7. Postings of a political, philosophical or legal nature are discouraged. 8. Postings to the list should be in ASCII or MIME encoded as text/plain. Attachments should not be sent to the list. To present a document, a suitable URL may be referred to. For documents of general interest, the use of proprietary file formats is discouraged. 9. Breaches of list etiquette should be dealt with privately with the offending list user, and should not result in complaints being sent to the list. 10. A person repeatedly breaching list etiquette shall receive warnings from the list administrator. A further breach after the second such warning within thirty days shall result in the offender being unsubscribed from the list. Other action may also be taken to block postings to the list by the offender. Any such unsubscription is to be immediately announced to the list. Mailing List Archives A full archive is available at http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/nznog/ Any message sent to the list will be archived and made available on the web automatically. Changes are not made to the archive on request, though the administrators remain happy to assist the Office of the Privacy Commissioner should any complaint be laid with that office. One way to search the archive is to use google and prefix your search with site:list.waikato.ac.nz . Subscribing to the List See http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog to subscribe. Donald Neal NZNOG Mailing List Owner/Administrator/Muggins ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. Please note that this communication does not designate an information system for the purposes of the Electronic Transactions Act 2002." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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