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Re: [nznog] Notification of NZRR Database changes
by phonenet＠phonenet.in-newzealand.com 11 Nov '04

11 Nov '04

If its that quiet then maybe someone at Citylink can add my MAC address to their list so I can usae the Cafenet system properly and get back to sending email (as requested by nzwireless crew earlier this week) Ian Cousins >Oh man *groan* - it must be a quiet day in the citylink office .... > > > On Fri, 2004-11-12 at 10:55, Andy Linton wrote: > Juha Saarinen wrote: > > Alastair Johnson wrote: > > > >> Should we be alarmed by this new IX, which can only be pronounced > >> "PENIX"? Did anyone think this through? :) > >> > >> (nb. This appears to be a new Palmerston North based IX, dubbed > >> the PNIX) > > > > > > Please forgive teh Ju\/3n1l3Z for they do not know how to keep a > > straight face... > > > > Oh Alastair, you big APE, sometimes you get on our WIX. When the time comes I > bet you'll knock the CHIX for SIX. >

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 11 Nov '04

11 Nov '04

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the APE and/or WIX route servers so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers, you will maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of APE and/or WIX routes. --- OBJECT BELOW CREATED: aut-num: AS17705 as-name: NZRR-AS17705 descr: Inspire Net descr: initially peering at '218.100.21.10' descr: see Citylink RT job #1487 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR import: from AS9281 accept ANY AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS9281 announce AS17705 notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc(a)inspire.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20041111 source: NZRR --- OBJECT BELOW CREATED: route: 203.114.128.0/19 descr: Route for Inspire Net - AS17705 origin: AS17705 notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc(a)inspire.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20041111 source: NZRR --- OBJECT BELOW CREATED: route: 203.79.88.0/23 descr: Route for Inspire Net - AS17705 origin: AS17705 notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc(a)inspire.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20041111 source: NZRR --- OBJECT BELOW CREATED: route: 203.96.157.0/24 descr: Route for Inspire Net - AS17705 origin: AS17705 notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc(a)inspire.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20041111 source: NZRR --- OBJECT BELOW CREATED: route-set: AS9281:RS-ROUTES:AS17705 descr: Route set advertised to AS9281 by Inspire Net - AS17705 members: 203.114.128.0/19^19-24, 203.79.88.0/23^23-24, 203.96.157.0/24 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc(a)inspire.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20041111 source: NZRR

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RE: [nznog] Notification of NZRR Database changes
by Donald Neal 11 Nov '04

11 Nov '04

> -----Original Message----- > From: Gavin Legge [mailto:gavin(a)dts.net.nz] > Sent: Friday, 12 November 2004 11:04 a.m. > To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: Re: [nznog] Notification of NZRR Database changes > > Oh man *groan* - it must be a quiet day in the citylink office .... This would be a good place for this thread to stop. _Before_ we get to the Asterix jokes. - Donald Neal NZNOG List Administrator Donald Neal |Presbyopia - inability to see what Technical Specialist | bishops are for. Operations Engineering | Integration & Services Division +----------------------------------- Alcatel NZ Ltd - Telecom's network operations manager ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. Please note that this communication does not designate an information system for the purposes of the Electronic Transactions Act 2002." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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NZNOG Conference 2005 Presenters
by Donald Neal 08 Nov '04

08 Nov '04

NZNOG People, Everyone who made an offer to present by the end of October should by now have received a response from the organising committee. We're still working our way through one or two later proposals. If we've overlooked anyone, could you please contact me off list as soon as possible. Presenter and programme details should begin to appear on the conference web site in the next few days. Thank you for your attention. - Donald Neal Donald Neal |Presbyopia - inability to see what Technical Specialist | bishops are for. Operations Engineering | Integration & Services Division +----------------------------------- Alcatel NZ Ltd - Telecom's network operations manager ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. Please note that this communication does not designate an information system for the purposes of the Electronic Transactions Act 2002." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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High Class Webcasting
by Richard Naylor 08 Nov '04

08 Nov '04

If you want to see some high class webcasting check out http://202.8.44.37/mediasitelive30/liveviewer/FrontEnd/Front.aspx?cid=1f5f9… Look at how it does the ppt and video together. Very impressive. Network impact minimal Slides are jpegs and video is 128k MS stuff. (keeps it on topic) price is eye-watering rich

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Fwd: UBS - Message From Hon Paul Swain Minister of Communications
by Chris Hodgetts 04 Nov '04

04 Nov '04

This was sent to an acquaintance of mine and forwarded to me for laughter value. This message had no confidential statement attached, so one assumes that it's open and can be distributed to the recipient wanted to. I hear actually on the Radio this morning that TelstraClear is off to the Commerce Commission. It will be good to track the outcome of that.. -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Phillippa Fox <Phillippa.Fox(a)parliament.govt.nz> To: jo(a)archnetnz.com Subject: UBS Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 09:37:53 +1300 COM04-05/66 Jo Smith jo(a)archnetnz.com Dear Jo Smith Thank you for your email of 17 September 2004 regarding the roll-out of Telecom's unbundled bitstream service (UBS). In particular, your concerns relate to the delay of the provision of this service to the market. In addressing this issue it is important to distinguish between the regulated UBS and the Telecom's commercial UBS. Access to a regulated UBS and corresponding backhaul service to be provided by Telecom was passed into law on 2 September 2004. Under the Telecommunications Act 2001, an Internet Service Provider (ISP) is entitled to apply to the Commerce Commission for a determination of the price and terms and conditions of an Internet grade UBS (with a minimum downstream speed of 256 Kbps) where the applicant is unable to commercially negotiate a satisfactory arrangement. As of today no ISP has applied to the Commission for such a determination. Alongside the regulated UBS, Telecom has on its own initiative offered a commercial UBS to market. The delays to which you refer are in relation to this voluntarily-provided service. The terms of Telecom's commercial UBS are available from Telecom. I understand that Telecom's commercial UBS promised by September has been delayed. Telecom says this is due to a "technical problem" which may take six months to resolve. Given ISPs have invested in marketing products dependent on this service, in the expectation that Telecom would deliver to its announced timeframe, I am concerned about the very short notice Telecom provided to these ISPs of the delay. However, I reiterate, this relates to Telecom's commercial UBS and not the regulated UBS. If an ISP cannot satisfactorily negotiate a commercial UBS, they should apply to the Commission for a determination to provide access to the regulated UBS. You also expressed concern that Telecom is able to advertise its commercial products while Telecom is not providing the service "it has been ordered" to provide and that Telecom is forcing customers into six month contracts preventing them from moving to other cheaper providers. As I explain above, Telecom is not under a legal obligation to provide the service that has been delayed. However, I encourage ISPs to apply for the regulated service if they are not satisfied with the commercial UBS offer. In regard to fixed term offers it is recommended consumers consider the range of offerings in the marketplace before committing to a specific fixed term. Given experiences to date under the Telecommunications Act 2001, I consider that there is potential to make improvements for the more timely achievement of the Act's objective ? the promotion of competition for the long term benefit of end users of telecommunications services. On October 11 2004 I announced a review of the Telecommunications Act 2001. Amongst other things, the review will look at improving the speed of resolution of key terms and conditions for supply of regulated services, including monitoring and enforcement issues, and improving the certainty and speed of processes for adding or altering regulated services. I intend to release a discussion paper in November for comment from interested parties. Yours sincerely Hon Paul Swain Minister of Communications -- Chris Hodgetts <chris(a)archnetnz.com>

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use of open proxies and the Crimes Act
by Stephen Judd 03 Nov '04

03 Nov '04

Suppose a Bad Person (living in NZ) were to use an open proxy (located in NZ) belonging to a Silly Person (also living in NZ) to do Bad Things (eg leeching international bandwidth, posting nastygrams, etc). Am I right in thinking this would fall under recent amendments to the Crimes Act? If so, I might be making a few calls tomorrow. Stephen

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RE: [nznog] High Class Webcasting
by Steve Schmidt 03 Nov '04

03 Nov '04

Now that is very cool. A complete presentation including PP slides sync'ed to the speaker. -----Original Message----- From: Richard Naylor [mailto:richard.naylor(a)citylink.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2004 10:50 a.m. To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: [nznog] High Class Webcasting If you want to see some high class webcasting check out http://202.8.44.37/mediasitelive30/liveviewer/FrontEnd/Front.aspx?cid=1f 5f9f9c-be0d-4848-864c-4da9e5172639 Look at how it does the ppt and video together. Very impressive. Network impact minimal Slides are jpegs and video is 128k MS stuff. (keeps it on topic) price is eye-watering rich _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. CAUTION: This e-mail and any attachment(s) contains information that is intended to be read only by the named recipient(s). It may contain information that is confidential, proprietary or the subject of legal privilege. This information is not to be used by any other person and/or organisation. If you are not the intended recipient, please advise us immediately and delete this e-mail from your system. Do not use any information contained in it.

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ping TCL; received 64 bytes from TCL
by Richard Patterson 02 Nov '04

02 Nov '04

Hey TCL, weren't you supposed to be breaking the intarwebnet today? -Richard

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The New Zealand Network Operators' Group
by Donald Neal 31 Oct '04

31 Oct '04

The New Zealand Network Operators' Group The New Zealand Network Operators' Group (NZNOG) has no king, president or formal membership. At present it consists of the subscribers to this mailing list, which anyone is free to join. Meetings Our next annual conference is to be hosted by the WAND group in Hamilton on February 2nd to 4th, 2005. See http://www.nznog.org/ for more information, including the Call For Presentations. All offers to present should really be in by now. Also see http://auckland.thursdaynightcurry.com/ if you live in or near Auckland or Wellington. Operators' Contact List See http://www.usenet.net.nz/noc/ for operational contact details for most New Zealand ISP's. These are intended for use by other network operators, not by most customers. Internet Exchanges See http://www.ape.net.nz/ for details of the Auckland Peering Exchange and those connected there. See http://www.wix.net.nz/ for the Wellington Internet Exchange. About This Mailing List This list has slightly over 700 addresses subscribed. You may only post to the list from a subscribed address. A number of people subscribe addresses which do not receive email purely to allow posting from them. You may choose to receive postings as they come in, or just to receive daily "digests". See the bottom of the page http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog/ to change the form in which you receive postings. The NZNOG mailing list is provided through a server at The University of Waikato, and is administered by employees of Alcatel NZ Ltd, Citylink and Telecom. None of these organisations, nor any administrator, is responsible for its content. NZNOG Mailing List Acceptable Use Policy The NZNOG mailing list exists to provide a forum for the exchange of technical information and the discussion of implementation issues that require cooperation among New Zealand network service providers. In order to continue to provide a useful forum for discussion of relevant technical issues, users of the list are asked to respect the following guidelines. 1. Discussion will focus on Internet operational and technical issues. 2. Discussion related to meetings of network service providers is appropriate. 3. Discussion unrelated to these topics is not appropriate. 4. Postings to multiple mailing lists are discouraged. 5. Postings that include foul language, character assassination, and lack of respect for other participants are unacceptable. 6. Blatant product or service marketing is unacceptable. 7. Postings of a political, philosophical or legal nature are discouraged. 8. Postings to the list should be in ASCII or MIME encoded as text/plain. Attachments should not be sent to the list. To present a document, a suitable URL may be referred to. For documents of general interest, the use of proprietary file formats is discouraged. 9. Breaches of list etiquette should be dealt with privately with the offending list user, and should not result in complaints being sent to the list. 10. A person repeatedly breaching list etiquette shall receive warnings from the list administrator. A further breach after the second such warning within thirty days shall result in the offender being unsubscribed from the list. Other action may also be taken to block postings to the list by the offender. Any such unsubscription is to be immediately announced to the list. Mailing List Archives A full archive is available at http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/nznog/ Any message sent to the list will be archived and made available on the web automatically. Changes are not made to the archive on request, though the administrators remain happy to assist the Office of the Privacy Commissioner should any complaint be laid with that office. One way to search the archive is to use google and prefix your search with site:list.waikato.ac.nz . Subscribing to the List See http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog to subscribe. Donald Neal NZNOG Mailing List Owner/Administrator/Muggins Donald Neal |Palmersdale: Are you in charge here? Technical Specialist |The Doctor: No, but I'm full of Operations Engineering | ideas. Integration & Services Division +----------------------- Alcatel NZ Ltd - Telecom's network operations manager ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. Please note that this communication does not designate an information system for the purposes of the Electronic Transactions Act 2002." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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