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RE: [nznog] Legal log retention requirements?
by Donald Neal 23 Mar '04

23 Mar '04

> -----Original Message----- > From: > nznog-bounces+Donald.Neal=telecom.co.nz(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > [mailto:nznog-bounces+Donald.Neal=telecom.co.nz(a)list.waikato.a > c.nz] On Behalf Of Joe Abley > Sent: Wednesday, 24 March 2004 9:23 a.m. > To: James Riden > Cc: NZ Network Operators Group > Subject: Re: [nznog] Legal log retention requirements? [...] > The truly paranoid also won't use syslog :-) > > Has anybody seen an implementation of RFC3195 in the wild, by the way? > http://security.sdsc.edu/software/sdsc-syslog/ ? - Donald Neal Donald Neal | "I suspect most samba Technical Specialist | developers are already Operations Engineering | technically insane. Of course, Integration & Services Divn. | since many of them are Alcatel NZ Ltd | Australians you can't tell." All opinions mine only. | - Linus Torvalds ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. Please note that this communication does not designate an information system for the purposes of the Electronic Transactions Act 2002." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Jamie Baddley, BCL
by Dan Clark 23 Mar '04

23 Mar '04

Hi can someone from BCL please tell me who took over Jamie Baddley's position, or someone of equivilent position? Email to him appears undeliverable. sorry about posting directly to the list. Kind Regards Dan Clark Network Manager Scarfies.Net Ltd

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Legal log retention requirements?
by Cameron Kerr 23 Mar '04

23 Mar '04

Hello all, I know that in some countries there are legal requirements for how long logs are meant to be held for. Are their such laws like that in NZ, and can anyone point me to any references? -- Cameron Kerr cameron.kerr(a)paradise.net.nz : http://nzgeeks.org/cameron/ Empowered by Perl!

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RE: [nznog] Legal log retention requirements?
by Neil Gardner 23 Mar '04

23 Mar '04

Taking a different view entirely - if you ARE required to maintain logs of something that perhaps you aren't too keen to be secure or reliable, like, say, P2P transfers of commercial music.... Do you think that storing the logs on a ramdisk on a machine with no UPS, running win95a - would get you in any actual trouble? "Oh, sorry sir, we don't appear to be able to locate the logs for that user, but yes, I am CERTAIN we are logging that info - it must have been a glitch" -- Cheers - Neil Gardner Networking and Security Support Engineer Renaissance Brands (09) 968-3681 / (021) 746-345

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Re: [nznog] Legal log retention requirements?
by Ewen McNeill 22 Mar '04

22 Mar '04

In message <20040323051819.GC21771(a)mithrak.localdomain>, Cameron Kerr writes: >Hello all, I know that in some countries there are legal requirements >for how long logs are meant to be held for. Are their such laws like >that in NZ, and can anyone point me to any references? The closest "generic" legislation that I'm aware of is the Electronic Transactions Act 2002 (you can see it at, eg, http://www.legislation.govt.nz/ -- a site which annoyingly doesn't seem to permit deep linking due to gratituous use of Javascript). While that Act was a 2002 one I believe that various portions of it are only just coming into effect this year. As others have pointed out, there are both operational and other legal reasons for retaining various types of records for longer which in some instances might extend to log files. And various overseas cases have shown that it's useful to have an established policy (and stick to it) for data retention -- being able to legitimately say "as a matter of policy we always delete those after 4 weeks" is much more useful than having to say "oh, umm, yeah we deleted those logs you want". Ewen

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OT: Wanted - Token Ring NIC
by Matt Camp 21 Mar '04

21 Mar '04

Believe it or not, I have need for a token ring network card for a PC... unfortunately I can't even find any in the usual second hand crap places, or websites... and new ones are now nearly $300. So if anyone out there knows of one, please let me know. Any speed, PCI preferred but can deal with ISA... rj45 type preferable. --- Matt Camp

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Has the physical infrastructure for the "advanced network" been built?
by Juha Saarinen 17 Mar '04

17 Mar '04

http://snipurl.com/55qf The launch is soon, so it seems like it. "Advanced networks typically provide internet data links at more than 1 Gigabit a second, or 200 times faster than a Telecom Jetstream connection." Wow. Imagine surfing your intarweb email at that speed! -- Juha

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RE: [nznog] Has the physical infrastructure for the "advancednetwork"been built?
by Donald Neal 17 Mar '04

17 Mar '04

This thread looks like the sort of thing you get when people don't go to the NZNOG conference and ask the people who are doing things. :{)* http://www.uniforum.org.nz/newsletters/2002_December#nginz may give the flavour. - Donald Neal Donald Neal | "I suspect most samba Technical Specialist | developers are already Operations Engineering | technically insane. Of course, Integration & Services Divn. | since many of them are Alcatel NZ Ltd | Australians you can't tell." All opinions mine only. | - Linus Torvalds ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. Please note that this communication does not designate an information system for the purposes of the Electronic Transactions Act 2002." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Registry scam from DRoA
by Gavin Palmer 17 Mar '04

17 Mar '04

Hiya All Thought I would give a heads up about that Domain Registry of America registration scam that's been going around for a while, I received a "Domain Name Expiration Notice" this morning about a .com domain we don't own asking for renewal and giving the option to register a .net and .org. I'm sure you are all already aware of the scam but I hadn't actually seen an example locally, till now. They might start doing the rounds...? Cheers Gav

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RE: [nznog] Has the physical infrastructure for the "advancednetwork"been built?
by Regan Murphy 17 Mar '04

17 Mar '04

> From: Juha Saarinen [mailto:juha(a)saarinen.org] > > Dan Clark wrote: > > > Hey Guys, > > I think this is Cisco's official word on it, kinda > exciting stuff > > really... > > > http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/global/asiapac/news/2003/pr_12-30.html > > That's just a campus network, isn't it? The Herald article > talks about linking the various NZ unis together with a > gigabit network. I assume Internet2 is the advanced network they are talking about hooking in to on an international level. You can read all about Internet2 here http://www.internet2.edu/ Infrastructure-wise I would expect there to be fibre to a number of universities and other institutions so technically it should be achievable. I guess renting some fibres would be where the "tens of millions of dollars" comes in and it would be an ongoing cost... -- Regan

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