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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nznog-bounces+Donald.Neal=telecom.co.nz(a)list.waikato.ac.nz
> [mailto:nznog-bounces+Donald.Neal=telecom.co.nz(a)list.waikato.ac.nz]On
> Behalf Of Jonathan
> Sent: Monday, 9 February 2004 14:35
> To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz
> Subject: Re: [nznog] New Telecom Jetstream Plans Leaked?
>
>
> > > Where does this idea of of the customer deserving
> flatrate broadband
> > > for peanuts come from?
>
> I beleive this idea comes from other countries where more than one
> telecommunications provider offers DSL/Cable systems, and
> there is actual
> competition.
>
> This is a great improvement from Telecom, however does not
> compare to other
> countries internet pricing. Being fair this could be put down
> to the lower
> quanitity of usable lines in NZ compared to the US, I don't
> think we'll be
> able to get the same prices as the US ever purely due to
> population density
> restrictions, however I do think the price could be
> dramaticly lower and
> Telecom still profit.
>
> Dont mean to be a complainer, I do like these new Telecom DSL
> offers, they
> are much better. JetStart actually qualifying as 'broadband'
> with the 256K
> download spec. Speed limiting in my eyes is a much preffered
> alternative to
> the huge cash bill at the end of the month.
>
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> From: "Juha Saarinen" <juha(a)saarinen.org>
> To: "Finnigan, Jamie (NZ - Wellington)" <jfinnigan(a)deloitte.co.nz>
> Cc: <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz>
> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 2:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [nznog] New Telecom Jetstream Plans Leaked?
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> > Finnigan, Jamie (NZ - Wellington) wrote:
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> > Conversely, where does the idea that Telecom deserves exemption from
> > competition come from? Corporate charity?
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And do you think they will have it set up for allocation of Static
IP's??
Current Jetstart/5GB plan and static IP assignment are 'incompatible',
supposedly, as this are not properly routable (must be nat'd or somit')
This is a marked improvement in contrast to pricing plans they've
provided in the past, and
they appear to have listened to what their customers have been asking
for. Good on ya,
Telecom.
But I guess there will always be complainers.. :)
Jamie
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Ladies and Gents,
This was pushed onto the Slashdot stack not long ago, might bear some investigation if your platform of choice for your IPv6 is Open BSD 3.4
http://www.guninski.com/obsdmtu.html
If the list has already seen this, please excuse the disturbing of your New Zealand Day (opps, Waitangi)
Just when you thought the Internet sucked beyond redemption your faith
in the net gods gets restored. Now let's find an answer for world hunger
and peace.
http://www.thespeciousreport.com/03031216nospam.html
Has anybody idea how they make this work? (:-)
Great Event. Well run, good attendance. Attaboys all round. Sorry to
miss the curry though.
InternetNZ has enjoyed supporting the NOG, and has agreed to consider
of more initiatives such as the IPV6 lab.
Lotto results:
Confirming that Craig Whitmore won the Linksys WRT54G. This was shipped
to him yesterday.
After a shipping saga, the Mulitcast books arrived here in Wellington
today via Auckland, Hamilton, Auckland, Wellington. Michael Sutton is
preparing the list, and Janet will ship …
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We have yet to decide whether to order more than the original 25 so no
one misses out.
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In message <401C49BA.5040507(a)saarinen.org>, Juha Saarinen writes:
>There's something wrong about neutering the 'Net for newbies instead of
>going after those who spoil it for them.
FWIW, Dean's talk wasn't solely about people spoiling the net for newbies
(although there's a lot of that too), but also that they're
inadvertantly doing dumb things because it's not obvious that it's dumb
and it's not obvious that there's a better way to do it. (For instance
consider a newbie …
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when they could have just sent a link.)
To that end I think that "seamless integration" of the local network
(and local machine) and the Internet is counterproductive -- there
really are differences and sometimes you've still got to be aware of
them. (Not everyone has a gigabit link to their house yet.)
>Given how spammers, phishers, crackers, VXers et al have so far managed
>to work around every countermeasure devised against them, I have reason
>to believe even NewbieNet would only be a temporary fix.
Indeed. That was basically my point in one of the talks, that whatever
restrictions you put in place would be "routed around" by those with an
incentive to do so. Okay you're down to "mere applications", but
applications -- especially those used by newbies -- are notoriously
insecure. (Some of them even have extra, designed in, insecurity.)
Jamie (Baddeley)'s suggestion of thin client is perhaps one of the few
ways you might get enough control over the end appliance to control
things; another is perhaps Knoppix-style bootable-readonly-device (or
perhaps something PS/2, Xbox, etc like).
My point was that you can get 75% of the immediate benefit of a "newbie
applicance network" right now simply by firewalling customer connections
at the edge -- and that if you do, please provide an opt-out mechanism.
(I'd really prefer that it wasn't necessary to buy, say, a E1 link
(wholesale connectivity) in order to get reasonably unfiltered access.
And tunnelling everywhere sucks.)
That said, short of a rigorous punishment technique,[0] rigorously applied,
I don't think we're going to get all of those that spoil the 'net.
Ewen
[0] Death. Or perhaps transportation to the colonies. I hear Mars
isn't too crowded this time of year.
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Just one of those days, format and reinstall and a little rushed. Too hot in
Wellington I think
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-----Original Message-----
From: Kim Shepherd [mailto:kims(a)waikato.ac.nz]
Sent: Tuesday, 3 February 2004 2:32 p.m.
To: 'Trisram Cheer'
Subject: RE: [nznog] OT: Looking For Work
I can't offer you a job, sorry, but I can remind you that you've fogotten
the second 't' in your name in your "From" line... Which might help with
prospective employers? ;)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trisram Cheer [mailto:james.edward(a)paradise.net.nz]
> Sent: Tuesday, 3 February 2004 2:25 p.m.
> To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz
> Subject: RE: [nznog] OT: Looking For Work
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> Whops!
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> From: Dan Clark [mailto:dan(a)scarfies.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, 3 February 2004 2:28 p.m.
> To: Trisram Cheer
> Subject: Re: [nznog] OT: Looking For Work
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>
>
> what area?
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: Trisram Cheer <mailto:james.edward(a)paradise.net.nz>
>
> To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz
>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 2:21 PM
>
> Subject: [nznog] OT: Looking For Work
>
>
>
> Apologies if this is too OT
>
>
>
> I've recently been made redundant and work finishes end
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> off list
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Whops!
Wellington
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From: Dan Clark [mailto:dan(a)scarfies.net]
Sent: Tuesday, 3 February 2004 2:28 p.m.
To: Trisram Cheer
Subject: Re: [nznog] OT: Looking For Work
what area?
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From: Trisram <mailto:james.edward(a)paradise.net.nz> Cheer
To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 2:21 PM
Subject: [nznog] OT: Looking For Work
Apologies if this is too OT
I've recently been made redundant and work finishes end of this week. If
anyone knows of any Helpdesk, User support or Hardware support (workshop
etc) Then please drop me a line off list
Thanks
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Hi all,
Can someone please point me in the direction of the JetStream Games Realm administrator, or his/her boss please.
Offlist.
Kind Regards
Dan Clark
Network Manager
Scarfies.Net Ltd
