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Net4U Limited
by Anaru Hartley 17 Jan '04

17 Jan '04

I know everyone must be sick of hearing about The Adventures of 'Net4U' and it at one point, became some what of a Soap. But bare with me (and sorry if this is OT) as I think these two things need to be discussed openly - if they haven't been already (in which case I need to visit the NZNOG Archives). 1. Apart from "Pay your Bill on Time" what can an Individual or Company learn from Net4U's mistake(s)? 2. How can such things be prevented in the future, so that VISP's and customers are left High and Dry. Do measures need to be taken to prevent or minimize the damage created by such things? Cheers, Anaru. http://personals.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Personals New people, new possibilities. FREE for a limited time.

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RE: [nznog] Jetstream without Telephone
by Donald Neal 16 Jan '04

16 Jan '04

> -----Original Message----- [...] > The requirement of a "telephone line" (ie analogue phone, as > opposed to a > cable pair), is nothing more than Telecom policy because they > can, which is > to be expected when they are allowed to do whatever they like. > But wait ... who's that masked man? Could it be the Commerce Commission? (You didn't want ADSL above 512kb, I take it?) - Donald Neal Donald Neal | "Fiasco - an unsuccessful Technical Specialist | wall painting." Operations Engineering | Integration & Services Divn. | - Sandi Toksvig Alcatel NZ Ltd | All opinions mine only. | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. Please note that this communication does not designate an information system for the purposes of the Electronic Transactions Act 2002." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Jetstream without Telephone
by Cameron Kerr 16 Jan '04

16 Jan '04

Hello all, I'm currently in the process of moving. Having had Telecom disconnect my phone-line at 12 noon, I've discovered I can still access the internet via Jetstream (which is getting moved on about Monday). I find it interesting that this is possible, and adds credance to the apparent fact that you don't need a phone connected (obviously you need the line though) to have Jetstream working. Could be interesting food for thought wrt to the unbundling report by the Commerce Commission. -- Cameron Kerr cameron.kerr(a)paradise.net.nz : http://nzgeeks.org/cameron/ Empowered by Perl!

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Conf reg close next Friday
by Tony McGregor 15 Jan '04

15 Jan '04

I'm delighted to say that conference registrations hit 100 last night. We have a working limit of about 120 so we've decided we must close registrations on Friday next week (23rd of January). It may also be the case that people who register late will miss out on some of the giveaways because of the lead time on ordering them. (Apologies in advance). We're looking forward to a very exciting conference. Tony and the crew. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tony McGregor Mail: T.McGregor(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz Department of Computer Science Phone: +64 7 838 4651 Waikato University Fax: +64 7 858 5095(w) +64 7 825 5047(h) Private Bag 3105 Home: +64 7 825 5040 mobile: (021)313004 Hamilton, New Zealand www: http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~tonym ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: [nznog] linux.citylink.co.nz / ftp.citylink.co.nz
by Tristram Cheer 12 Jan '04

12 Jan '04

I'll Dig Around Work, Think we got a oldish 80gb Seagate Cuda 4 Around doing nothing, if I find it it's yours -----Original Message----- From: Barry Murphy [mailto:barry(a)unix.co.nz] Sent: Monday, 12 January 2004 9:40 p.m. To: Tristram Cheer Subject: Re: [nznog] linux.citylink.co.nz / ftp.citylink.co.nz 120gig ide would do. Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tristram Cheer" <james.edward(a)paradise.net.nz> To: "'NZ NOG'" <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 9:27 PM Subject: RE: [nznog] linux.citylink.co.nz / ftp.citylink.co.nz > What Type Of HDD You Need? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Barry Murphy [mailto:barry(a)unix.co.nz] > Sent: Monday, 12 January 2004 6:15 p.m. > To: Drew Broadley; 'Matthew Poole' > Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: Re: [nznog] linux.citylink.co.nz / ftp.citylink.co.nz > > daniel still runs the cvsup.nz.freebsd.org which is pretty good, just need > the distfiles. > > If someone gave me a hard drive i'd do it, just at least once a month my > bandwidth intl would be kak with all the downloads. > > Barry > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Drew Broadley" <drew(a)iplaynz.com> > To: "'Matthew Poole'" <matt(a)p00le.net> > Cc: <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 5:58 PM > Subject: RE: [nznog] linux.citylink.co.nz / ftp.citylink.co.nz > > > > I was wondering about this myself, even just hosting /usr/ports/ package > > folders (not src files) > > and a few ISO's would all that is required, and keep them up-to-date > > with a cvsup -r off cvs.freebsd.org > > > > Guesstimates > > > > | $ du -h -d 0 /usr/ports > > | 1004M /usr/ports > > > > ~ 1 GigaByte for FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE /usr/ports > > > > | $ du -h -d 0 /usr/ports/ > > | 343M /usr/ports/ > > > > ~ 340 MegaBytes /usr/ports for FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE /usr/ports > > > > Aswel as roughly 5 MINIISO's @ ~200MB each > > > > Total Guesstimate: 3 GigaBytes > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Matthew Poole [mailto:matt(a)p00le.net] > > > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 2:05 PM > > > To: Barry Murphy > > > Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > > Subject: RE: [nznog] linux.citylink.co.nz / ftp.citylink.co.nz > > > > > > > > > > > > Contact Dan Langille (dan(a)langille.org, IIRC) if you want to > > > take over as the official ftp.nz FreeBSD mirror. The guys at > > > CallPlus have _NO_ clue about FreeBSD, and I wouldn't be > > > hugely surprised to find out that the mirror only survived > > > due to their ignorance. > > > > > > On Mon, 12 Jan 2004, Barry Murphy wrote: > > > > > > > Would be nice if it had the freebsd mirror and even better > > > if it was > > > > ftp.nz.freebsd.org <-- that mirror died about 2 months ago, was > > > > apparently using too much space :( > > > > > > > > Barry > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Simon Blake [mailto:simon(a)citylink.co.nz] > > > > Sent: Monday, 12 January 2004 12:42 p.m. > > > > To: draggy(a)clear.net.nz > > > > Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > > > Subject: Re: [nznog] linux.citylink.co.nz / ftp.citylink.co.nz > > > > > > > > > > > > Does appear to have been a shonky ethernet card, it's all good now. > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Si > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 09:47:56AM +1300, Simon Blake said: > > > > > It's a v. unhappy box, it looks like it may have thrown > > > an ethernet > > > > > controller. Should be going again later in the day. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > Si > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 09:42:56AM +1300, > > > draggy(a)clear.net.nz said: > > > > > > Can anyone from Citylink or anyone else, advise as to > > > the status > > > > > > of this server. > > > > > > > > > > > > Have had a few comments about not being able to contact this > > > > > > server and have tried myself and cannot get to it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Domains: > > > > > > ftp.nz.debian.org > > > > > > linux.citylink.co.nz > > > > > > ftp.citylink.co.nz > > > > > > > > > > > > IP: 210.48.103.6 > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Simon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > NZNOG mailing list > > > > > > NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > > > > > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > NZNOG mailing list > > > > NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > > > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > NZNOG mailing list > > > > NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > > > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > NZNOG mailing list > > > NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NZNOG mailing list > > NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > > > > _______________________________________________ > NZNOG mailing list > NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > > > _______________________________________________ > NZNOG mailing list > NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog >

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linux.citylink.co.nz / ftp.citylink.co.nz
by draggy＠clear.net.nz 12 Jan '04

12 Jan '04

Can anyone from Citylink or anyone else, advise as to the status of this server. Have had a few comments about not being able to contact this server and have tried myself and cannot get to it. Domains: ftp.nz.debian.org linux.citylink.co.nz ftp.citylink.co.nz IP: 210.48.103.6 Cheers Simon

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NZNOG '04 Timetable.
by Jamie Curtis 12 Jan '04

12 Jan '04

Hi all, Now available on the NZNOG '04 conference site is a draft timetable of events for the main programme on Thursday and Friday. You can get at it from: http://www.nznog.org/programme.php As you can see we have had to parallelize two sessions at the end of Friday due to a very full programme. While we were trying to avoid this if at all possible, the two sessions in question are both more technical versions of earlier introductory talks. We felt this was fairer than running one or both of these sessions in parallel with another speakers only presentation. The other option was to remove one of the introductory presentations and only have the in-depth presentation. NZNOG has a very broad audience however, and we felt we could not assume a minimum level of knowledge on these topics. Hopefully the number of people who are affected by this is small. Cheers, Jamie ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Jamie Curtis email: jpc2(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz WAND Group Lab G1.03 phone +64 21 392 102 Computer Science Department, University of Waikato, New Zealand -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Verisign Plans DNS Changes
by Jeff Williams 11 Jan '04

11 Jan '04

All, Seems Verisign is updating .COM and .NET zones soon.. See: http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/msg00794.html and http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/01/08/HNverisigncom_1.html Regards, -- Jeffrey A. Williams Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!) "Be precise in the use of words and expect precision from others" - Pierre Abelard "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC. E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com Contact Number: 214-244-4827 or 214-244-3801

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RE: [nznog] DONALD! Umm.. something is very wrong here.
by Tim John - Domainz 11 Jan '04

11 Jan '04

>From the Domainz point of view, the only person who can legally cancel a domain name is the Name Holder. The DNC has the liberty to instruct us to cancel a name and Domainz itself has the right to terminate a registration, but only in extreme circumstances. I suspect that this and many other names have been registered 'for a laugh' in the past and the details used in the registration are real, if not the registrants. If the person who is nominated in the registration as the Name Holder is not in fact the legal holder, then the best thing to do is let the name expire when it comes up for renewal, unless the Name Holder (as shown) can contact us directly and request that it's cancelled. Tim -----Original Message----- From: Will Steele [mailto:willsteele(a)hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, 11 January 2004 5:40 p.m. To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: RE: [nznog] DONALD! Umm.. something is very wrong here. Michael, 1) I am not employed or associated with ConceptNET as you suggested in your December post. 2) I believe it is against the Shared Registry's Terms of Service to use the whois for this sort of thing. 3) Domains are registered at a first come, first serve basis. The above domain was registered on the 28th March 2003, when I was being very stupid and immature, which I am (slowly) overcoming, but you don't seem to be helping. Please send me proof that Sahil is making these claims off list, or send anyone else the proof for that matter, because simply, you are generally full of shit. Get your facts straight before you post. If anyone from Domainz is subscribed to this list, or the DNC, please cancel the above domain, as I no longer have access to it, otherwise, its there to stay until it expires... And no, I'm not smiling. Will Steele "^god" _________________________________________________________________ Check out the Xtra gaming servers at http://xtramsn.co.nz/gaming ! _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog DISCLAIMER: The content of this email is confidential and may contain legally privileged information intended only for the individual or entity named above. Access to this message by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that the use, distribution and publication of the above information is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please contact Domainz by returning the email and destroying the original. Thank you.

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Re: [nznog] DONALD! Umm.. something is very wrong here.
by Will Steele 11 Jan '04

11 Jan '04

So, you are saying you dont care? Why did you even post in the first place. There was no claims, as you have sent no proof to anyone. Like I said, get your facts straight. Domainz have set the domain not to be renewed, so this is the end of this topic. >From: Michael Hallager <michael(a)networkstuff.co.nz> >Reply-To: michael(a)networkstuff.co.nz >To: Tim John - Domainz <tim.john(a)domainz.net.nz> >CC: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >Subject: Re: [nznog] DONALD! Umm.. something is very wrong here. >Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 18:05:34 +1300 > >Thanks for the information Tim. Would "passing off" of a well known >industry >forum like NZNOG be considered "extreme (enough) circumstances"? >Does the DNC need a complaint in writing to action this? > >As for Will, go and sort it out with Sahil seeing that the pair of you are >friends again. The rest of us don't care. > > > From the Domainz point of view, the only person who can legally cancel a > > domain name is the Name Holder. The DNC has the liberty to instruct us >to > > cancel a name and Domainz itself has the right to terminate a >registration, > > but only in extreme circumstances. > > > > I suspect that this and many other names have been registered 'for a >laugh' > > in the past and the details used in the registration are real, if not >the > > registrants. If the person who is nominated in the registration as the >Name > > Holder is not in fact the legal holder, then the best thing to do is let > > the name expire when it comes up for renewal, unless the Name Holder (as > > shown) can contact us directly and request that it's cancelled. > > > > Tim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Will Steele [mailto:willsteele(a)hotmail.com] > > Sent: Sunday, 11 January 2004 5:40 p.m. > > To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > Subject: RE: [nznog] DONALD! Umm.. something is very wrong here. > > > > > > Michael, > > > > 1) I am not employed or associated with ConceptNET as you suggested in >your > > December post. > > 2) I believe it is against the Shared Registry's Terms of Service to use > > the > > > > whois for this sort of thing. > > 3) Domains are registered at a first come, first serve basis. > > > > The above domain was registered on the 28th March 2003, when I was being > > very stupid and immature, which I am (slowly) overcoming, but you don't > > seem > > > > to be helping. > > > > Please send me proof that Sahil is making these claims off list, or send > > anyone else the proof for that matter, because simply, you are generally > > full of shit. Get your facts straight before you post. > > > > If anyone from Domainz is subscribed to this list, or the DNC, please > > cancel > > > > the above domain, as I no longer have access to it, otherwise, its there >to > > stay until it expires... > > > > And no, I'm not smiling. > > > > Will Steele > > "^god" > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Check out the Xtra gaming servers at http://xtramsn.co.nz/gaming ! > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NZNOG mailing list > > NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > > > > > > DISCLAIMER: The content of this email is confidential and may contain > > legally privileged information intended only for the individual or >entity > > named above. Access to this message by anyone else is unauthorised. If > > you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that the use, > > distribution and publication of the above information is prohibited. If >you > > have received this email in error, please contact Domainz by returning >the > > email and destroying the original. Thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > > NZNOG mailing list > > NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > >-- >// Michael Hallager >Director || Head geek || Making IT work. > >URL: http://www.networkstuff.co.nz >networkStuff, NZ's leading supplier of high quality used networking >equipment. > >Phone: 09 837-6100 (DDI) 0800 638-788 (Freecall) >Fax: 09 837-8100 0800 329-788 (Freecall) >Mobile: 027 477-7624 > >_______________________________________________ >NZNOG mailing list >NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog _________________________________________________________________ Download MSN Messenger @ http://messenger.xtramsn.co.nz - talk to family and friends overseas!

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