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by Derek Lee 01 Dec '03

01 Dec '03

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LOTR Webcam and netgate
by Richard J. Fairhall 30 Nov '03

30 Nov '03

It looks like netgate didnt peer with citylink for the Lord of the Rings webcams which means that anybody on Fast IP Direct Jetstream cannot access them. This is just another example of the pathetic attitude some companies have to both their users and peering nowdays. Regards, Richard.

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RE: [nznog] APE, citylink, LOTR thingy
by Simon Byrnand 30 Nov '03

30 Nov '03

At 17:24 1/12/2003 +1300, Michael Bordignon wrote: > > Can someone post some links to these other streams ? Thanks. > >http://www.r2.co.nz/20031201/ > >I can see the 384kb/sec stream perfectly (mostly, apart from some buffering) >now, webcams are pretty much ok now too. Yep, both are ok here too, the 384Kb stream is playing smoothly and the webcams are as good as they ever were...(that is to say, 2 - 4 frames per second and too far away to make out any faces ;-) Regards, Simon

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RE: [nznog] APE, citylink, LOTR thingy
by Neil Gardner 30 Nov '03

30 Nov '03

I'm getting perfect results on courtenay once it manages to connect (Took ages - over a minute) ... Perhaps limited number of streams supported at some link? Same deal for reading... -- Cheers - Neil Gardner Networking and Security Support Engineer Renaissance Brands (09) 968-3681 / (021) 746-345 -----Original Message----- From: Craig Whitmore [mailto:lennon(a)orcon.net.nz] Sent: Monday, 1 December 2003 4:37 p.m. To: 'Craig Whitmore' Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: RE: [nznog] APE, citylink, LOTR thingy http://palantir.citylink.co.nz/courtenay/ (on APE) is getting too overloaded now at times.. missing pictures /page cannot be found errors etc :-( > -----Original Message----- > From: Craig Whitmore [mailto:lennon(a)orcon.net.nz] > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 4:31 PM > To: 'Simon Lyall' > Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: RE: [nznog] APE, citylink, LOTR thingy > > Connected via APE. > > http://palantir.citylink.co.nz/courtenay/ works well about 2-3 fps > http://palantir.citylink.co.nz/reading/ works well (except looks like > has a little bit of water on the camera) > > Any of the R2 broadcasts either don't work or only has R2 advertising > on them and repeats.. (too overloaded?) > > The NZOOM feeds don't play at all :-( _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

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RE: [nznog] APE, citylink, LOTR thingy
by Michael Bordignon 30 Nov '03

30 Nov '03

> The main website just manages to load but the streams are > overloaded to the point of being broken. > > Hows it look to everyone else? Very slow.. We peer at WIX and I can ping palantir.citylink (with 2ms replies) but it seems (i think) that Apache (or however they're doing it) is mega overloaded. Michael

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Re: [nznog] APE, citylink, LOTR thingy
by Jamie Baddeley 30 Nov '03

30 Nov '03

was Go, Go, od, G, ood, G, G, , No, Now, B, a, Ba, Bad. Liv Tyler looks lovely when she's not stuttering and jerking around. 384 kbps now starting to resemble the mjpeg. jamie >>> Simon Lyall <simon(a)darkmere.gen.nz> 1/12/2003 4:16:36 PM >>> The main website just manages to load but the streams are overloaded to the point of being broken. Hows it look to everyone else? -- Simon J. Lyall. | Very Busy | Mail: simon(a)darkmere.gen.nz "To stay awake all night adds a day to your life" - Stilgar | eMT. _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

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RE: [nznog] APE, citylink, LOTR thingy
by mark.harris＠ssc.govt.nz 30 Nov '03

30 Nov '03

Agreed. They come and go, but they go more than they come. > -----Original Message----- > From: Simon Lyall [mailto:simon(a)darkmere.gen.nz] > Sent: 01 December 2003 16:17 > To: nznog > Subject: [nznog] APE, citylink, LOTR thingy > > > > The main website just manages to load but the streams are > overloaded to > the point of being broken. > > Hows it look to everyone else? > > -- > Simon J. Lyall. | Very Busy | Mail: simon(a)darkmere.gen.nz > "To stay awake all night adds a day to your life" - Stilgar | eMT. > > _______________________________________________ > NZNOG mailing list > NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog >

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Re: [nznog] APE, citylink, LOTR thingy
by Ewen McNeill 30 Nov '03

30 Nov '03

In message <Pine.LNX.4.56.0312011612240.8002(a)green.darkmere.gen.nz>, Simon Lyall writes: >The main website just manages to load but the streams are overloaded to >the point of being broken. In Wellington (across WIX) I can see: - the flick motion Axis thing, but only inside IE which uses the plugin (the javascript stuff is just completely overloaded); - the 128Kbps stream (but not the 384Kbps stream) Which is sort of okay. But some things seem to be struggling under the load. I guess in theory there's another set of hardware in Auckland seeing different load. Ewen

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The New Zealand Network Operators' Group
by Donald Neal 30 Nov '03

30 Nov '03

The New Zealand Network Operators' Group The New Zealand Network Operators' Group (NZNOG) has no king, president or formal membership. At present it consists of the subscribers to this mailing list, which anyone is free to join. A face-to-face gathering is to take place in Hamilton on January 29 and 30 2004, hosted by the WAND group. Registration is open now, and a draft programme is due out shortly. See http://www.nznog.org/ for more details. Also see http://thursdaynightcurry.com/about.html if you live in or near Wellington or Auckland. Operators' Contact List See http://www.usenet.net.nz/noc/ for operational contact details for most New Zealand ISP's. These are intended for use by other network operators rather than by most customers. Internet Exchanges See http://www.ape.net.nz/ for details of the Auckland Peering Exchange and those connected there. See http://www.wix.net.nz/ for the Wellington Internet Exchange. And possibly http://www.citylink.co.nz/information/news/nr1068413489.html . About This Mailing List This list has around six hundred addresses subscribed. You may only post to the list from a subscribed address. A number of people subscribe addresses which do not receive email purely to allow posting from them. The NZNOG mailing list is provided through a server at The University of Waikato, and is administered by an employee of Alcatel NZ Ltd. Neither of these organisations, nor the administrator, is responsible for its content. NZNOG Mailing List Acceptable Use Policy The NZNOG mailing list exists to provide a forum for the exchange of technical information and the discussion of implementation issues that require cooperation among New Zealand network service providers. In order to continue to provide a useful forum for discussion of relevant technical issues, users of the list are asked to respect the following guidelines. 1. Discussion will focus on Internet operational and technical issues. 2. Discussion related to meetings of network service providers is appropriate. 3. Discussion unrelated to these topics is not appropriate. 4. Postings to multiple mailing lists are discouraged. 5. Postings that include foul language, character assassination, and lack of respect for other participants are unacceptable. 6. Blatant product or service marketing is unacceptable. 7. Postings of a political, philosophical or legal nature are discouraged. 8. Postings to the list should be in ASCII or MIME encoded as text/plain. Attachments should not be sent to the list. To present a document, a suitable URL may be referred to. For documents of general interest, the use of proprietary file formats is discouraged. 9. Breaches of list etiquette should be dealt with privately with the offending list user, and should not result in complaints being sent to the list. 10. A person repeatedly breaching list etiquette shall receive warnings from the list administrator. A further breach after the second such warning within thirty days shall result in the offender being unsubscribed from the list. Other action may also be taken to block postings to the list by the offender. Any such unsubscription is to be immediately announced to the list. Mailing List Archives A full archive is available at http://list.waikato.ac.nz/archives/nznog/ Any message sent to the list will be archived and made available on the web automatically. Changes are not made to the archive on request, though the administrator remains happy to assist the Office of the Privacy Commissioner should any complaint be laid with that office. One way to search the archive is to use google and prefix your search with site:list.waikato.ac.nz . Subscribing to the List See http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog to subscribe. Donald Neal NZNOG Mailing List Owner/Administrator/Muggins ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. Please note that this communication does not designate an information system for the purposes of the Electronic Transactions Act 2002." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Peering question
by Juha Saarinen 30 Nov '03

30 Nov '03

http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/UNID/8E589BD9394A5141CC256DEB00084747?O… 'Thompson also uses a different terminology to describe peering. "It's a much abused term. Peering really only happens between companies of a similar size. What we're talking about is interconnection." ' Is this the generally accepted definition of peering? -- Juha

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