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Full URL
by Steve Withers 10 Aug '03

10 Aug '03

Sorry...the full URL is: http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/environment/story.jsp?story=431319 -- Steve Withers <swithers(a)mmp.org.nz>

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Error
by Sahil Gupta - NET4U LIMITED 10 Aug '03

10 Aug '03

Apologies, the network is 202.50.167.0/24 and not 202.50.267.0/24 Regards, Sahil Gupta Senior Account Manager NET4U LIMITED Phone: 0508-263-848 Fax: 07-8582659 Mobile: 029-366-6375

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Prefix-List Update for Net4U Limited (AS23746)
by Sahil Gupta - NET4U LIMITED 10 Aug '03

10 Aug '03

Hi, Could ISP's currently peering with Net4U at APE kindly add the below listed network to the net4u's current prefix-list: 202.50.267.0/24 A full prefix-list is attached. Regards, Sahil Gupta Senior Account Manager NET4U LIMITED Phone: 0508-263-848 Fax: 07-8582659 Mobile: 029-366-6375

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RE: [nznog] Re:Domain Name Scams
by Paul Adshead 10 Aug '03

10 Aug '03

It is to be fair, incredibly simple to find out most of the information regarding the allocation of a domain. Just go to the main DomaiNZ page: www.domainz.net.nz and enter your (NZ) domain name into the search box on the left. After selecting OK, then a warning about not being able to use this information for any other purpose appears - and this warning automatically disappears after a few seconds anyway. After this, then all of the details for the queried domain appear! As the warning message automatically disappears, then the content of the warning is probably not legally enforceable anyway - you could have been looking away from your screen at that point! They should have a "Yes I've read the above agreement" checkbox before you can proceed... Possible ways that the scam has found out the contact info: - if you knew enough about HTML, ASP and VB, it would be simple enough to write a program that once every five seconds sent a request to the DomaiNZ webserver starting at "a.co.nz" and finishing at "zzzzzzz999.net.nz", to find out the information for the various domains - it would take a while though; - you could use an 'electronic dictionary' of words in order to cut down on the unlikely examples; - there is also probably an online listing somewhere, of all of the currently active companies in New Zealand, you could then just try "<company name>.co.nz" and "<company name>.net.nz". There are far too many ways that people could have done it. I'm not condoning what has happened and have not done so myself, I'm just trying to explain how easy it is to do so. I was hit with three renewals too... Paul Adshead Network and Systems Manager OTL Software Ltd www.otl.co.nz -----Original Message----- From: Juha Saarinen [mailto:juha(a)saarinen.org] Sent: Friday, 8 August 2003 13:04 To: PhoneNet Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] Re:Domain Name Scams On Fri, 8 Aug 2003, PhoneNet wrote: > I have today received 5 letters from The Domain Registry of America, > Melbourne (posted in UK) asking me to re-register some of my domains as > they are due to expire - so they are at it also. Got one here as well, and what bothers me is that although the domain in question is registered under my own name, the letter was addressed to my company, which doesn't appear in whois data anywhere. Somebody's been trawling... -- Juha Saarinen _______________________________________________ Nznog mailing list Nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

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FW: [nznog] Re:Domain Name Scams
by Tim John 09 Aug '03

09 Aug '03

> Just go to the main DomaiNZ page: www.domainz.net.nz and > enter your (NZ) > domain name into the search box on the left. After selecting > OK, then a > warning about not being able to use this information for any > other purpose > appears - and this warning automatically disappears after a > few seconds > anyway. After this, then all of the details for the queried > domain appear! > As the warning message automatically disappears, then the > content of the > warning is probably not legally enforceable anyway - you > could have been > looking away from your screen at that point! They should > have a "Yes I've > read the above agreement" checkbox before you can proceed... > Actually, the warning message appears on the Domainz homepage, the 'SRS is being queried' page and the results page. It only disappears when the page reloads with the results. It's only a GUI'd representation of a WhoIs query. On registration, there is a physical need to click a "I've read the terms of service" button, but at the end of the day, any information entered as part of a domain name registration is available in the public domain. Tim > Possible ways that the scam has found out the contact info: > - if you knew enough about HTML, ASP and VB, it would be > simple enough to > write a program that once every five seconds sent a request > to the DomaiNZ > webserver starting at "a.co.nz" and finishing at > "zzzzzzz999.net.nz", to > find out the information for the various domains - it would > take a while > though; > - you could use an 'electronic dictionary' of words in order > to cut down on > the unlikely examples; > - there is also probably an online listing somewhere, of all of the > currently active companies in New Zealand, you could then > just try "<company > name>.co.nz" and "<company name>.net.nz". > > There are far too many ways that people could have done it. > > I'm not condoning what has happened and have not done so > myself, I'm just > trying to explain how easy it is to do so. I was hit with > three renewals > too... > > Paul Adshead > Network and Systems Manager > OTL Software Ltd > www.otl.co.nz > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Juha Saarinen [mailto:juha(a)saarinen.org] > Sent: Friday, 8 August 2003 13:04 > To: PhoneNet > Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: Re: [nznog] Re:Domain Name Scams > > > On Fri, 8 Aug 2003, PhoneNet wrote: > > > I have today received 5 letters from The Domain Registry > of America, > > Melbourne (posted in UK) asking me to re-register some of > my domains as > > they are due to expire - so they are at it also. > > Got one here as well, and what bothers me is that although > the domain in > question is registered under my own name, the letter was > addressed to my > company, which doesn't appear in whois data anywhere. > > Somebody's been trawling... > > -- > Juha Saarinen > _______________________________________________ > Nznog mailing list > Nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > _______________________________________________ > Nznog mailing list > Nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > DISCLAIMER: The content of this email is confidential and may contain legally privileged information intended only for the individual or entity named above. Access to this message by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that the use, distribution and publication of the above information is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please contact Domainz by returning the email and destroying the original. Thank you.

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Info Session: Certificate In Web-based Instruction
by Abigail 08 Aug '03

08 Aug '03

On Thursday, August 14th at 1100 hrs Pacific Standard Time (GMT 08:00) there will be a Webcast featuring the instructors of the Certificate in Web-Based Instruction (CWI). Webcast participants can ask questions and interact with the instructors of this 24 week program that will be offered entirely online beginning September 15, 2003. The CWI program gives you the tools and knowledge necessary to design, develop and deliver Web-based courses or add online components to the face-to-face classroom. Please register to participate in the live Webcast by visiting http://www.sfu.ca/lidc/telestraining. If you are unable to make it to this live presentation at the above date then you can attend our next Webcast scheduled for Wednesday, September 3 at 1100 hrs PST (GMT 8:00). Abby Dy Communications Specialist Certificate in Web-Based Instruction Tel: 604-806-5156 ady(a)sfu.ca

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DomainNamesNZ
by Felix Tsang 07 Aug '03

07 Aug '03

I recon their misleading letters should be taken up with the commerce commission. Felix Tsang

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DomainNamesNZ
by Dominic O'Hare 07 Aug '03

07 Aug '03

The company "DomianNamesNZ" is actually "Domain Names Australia Pty Limited" a Australian based company incorporated in Victoria. They also go by "Internet Registry Pty Limited" and "NetRegister" (Not NetRegistry). The address they're using, the ASB tower in Auckland is an internet bought mail forwarding address. They have also done mail-outs and fax-outs in Australia - http://www.auda.org.au/about/news/2003061903.html One thing interesting is that they have sent letters to customers of Internet Name Group (ING) who did a similar mail-out in NZ in a while back, the letters were filled with B.S and obviously asked they register renew domains with them. Regards, Dominic

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Re: [nznog] Re:Domain Name Scams
by Jamie Baddeley 07 Aug '03

07 Aug '03

got one here too. >>> Juha Saarinen <juha(a)saarinen.org> 8/8/2003 1:03:46 PM >>> On Fri, 8 Aug 2003, PhoneNet wrote: > I have today received 5 letters from The Domain Registry of America, > Melbourne (posted in UK) asking me to re-register some of my domains as > they are due to expire - so they are at it also. Got one here as well, and what bothers me is that although the domain in question is registered under my own name, the letter was addressed to my company, which doesn't appear in whois data anywhere. Somebody's been trawling... -- Juha Saarinen _______________________________________________ Nznog mailing list Nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

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TelstraClear Routing?
by Steve Withers 07 Aug '03

07 Aug '03

I've been using a VPN to connect to work across the WIX for over a year - via a Paradise cable modem. I was seeing about 1mbps throughput, consistent with AT&T's Wellington Office (the actual people-at-desks office) United Networks connection to the WIX. A traceroute showed roughly 5-6 hops as I recall. Today....I can't get my VPN tunnel up at all and the traceroute shows 15 hops and my traffic is going to Auckland and off to Reach in HongKong...and then into AT&T's network there and then back again via Australia to NZ. Is anyone else seeing similar routing troubles? -- Steve Withers <swithers(a)mmp.org.nz>

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