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Can anyone tell me
by Simon Son 08 May '03

08 May '03

Can anyone tell me how ISP differentiate how much National and International traffic their jetstart customers uses? I think that If accounting packet is proxies from telecom's radius,then ISP must do something to distinguish National and International traffic. Thanks in advance SImon

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Cisco 7206/7204 router chassis...
by Dan Clark 07 May '03

07 May '03

Hi all, Does anyone happen to have a Cisco 7206/7204 router chassis we could borrow for a lab/project for a short period of time? Please contact me offlist. Kind Regards Dan Clark Network Manager Scarfies.Net Ltd

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OT: Cisco Flash
by Dan Clark 07 May '03

07 May '03

Hey guys, I'm after a 16 Meg Cisco Flash Card, would anyone of you happen to have one spare? If you do, please contact me off-list Regards, Dan Clark Network Manager Scarfies.Net Ltd

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Anyone want a job?
by Mark Frater 07 May '03

07 May '03

http://www.quicksilver.net.nz/sysadmin.html contact me off list. Mark

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The New Zealand Network Operators' Group
by Donald Neal 05 May '03

05 May '03

The New Zealand Network Operators' Group The New Zealand Network Operators' Group (NZNOG) has no king, president or formal membership. At present it consists of the subscribers to this mailing list, which anyone is free to join. NZNOG held a face to face gathering as part of the UniForum NZ conference in 2002, and is to do the same again from 10-12 July this year. See http://www.uniforum.org.nz/conference 2003/conference.html for details. The NZNOG schedule there is well short of final. NZNOG doesn't hold other national face to face meetings, but see http://thursdaynightcurry.com/ if you live in or near Wellington or Auckland. Operators' Contact List See http://www.usenet.net.nz/noc/ for operational contact details for most New Zealand ISP's. These are intended for use by other network operators rather than by most customers. Auckland Peering Exchange See http://www.ape.net.nz/ for details of the Auckland Peering Exchange and those connected there. About This Mailing List This list has around 470 addresses subscribed. You may only post to the list from a subscribed address. A number of people subscribe addresses which do not receive email purely to allow posting from them. The NZNOG mailing list is provided through a server at The University of Waikato, and is administered by an employee of Telecom NZ Ltd. Neither of these organisations, nor the administrator, is responsible for its content. NZNOG Mailing List Acceptable Use Policy The NZNOG mailing list exists to provide a forum for the exchange of technical information and the discussion of implementation issues that require cooperation among New Zealand network service providers. In order to continue to provide a useful forum for discussion of relevant technical issues, users of the list are asked to respect the following guidelines. 1. Discussion will focus on Internet operational and technical issues. 2. Discussion related to meetings of network service providers is appropriate. 3. Discussion unrelated to these topics is not appropriate. 4. Postings to multiple mailing lists are discouraged. 5. Postings that include foul language, character assassination, and lack of respect for other participants are unacceptable. 6. Blatant product or service marketing is unacceptable. 7. Postings of a political, philosophical or legal nature are discouraged. 8. Postings to the list should be in ASCII or MIME encoded as text/plain. Attachments should not be sent to the list. To present a document, a suitable URL may be referred to. For documents of general interest, the use of proprietary file formats is discouraged. 9. Breaches of list etiquette should be dealt with privately with the offending list user, and should not result in complaints being sent to the list. 10. A person repeatedly breaching list etiquette shall receive warnings from the list administrator. A further breach after the second such warning within thirty days shall result in the offender being unsubscribed from the list. Other action may also be taken to block postings to the list by the offender. Any such unsubscription is to be immediately announced to the list. Mailing List Archives A full archive is available at http://list.waikato.ac.nz/archives/nznog/ Any message sent to the list will be archived and made available on the web automatically. Changes are not made to the archive on request, though the administrator remains happy to assist the Office of the Privacy Commissioner should any complaint be laid with that office. Subscribing to the List See http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog to subscribe. Donald Neal NZNOG Mailing List Owner/Administrator/Muggins ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Live Web Presentations On the Certificate in Web-based Instruction
by Derek Lee 05 May '03

05 May '03

Hi: I would like to invite you to a live Web presentation from The Learning and Instructional Development Centre at Simon Fraser University (www.sfu.ca/lidc/telestraining/) about the Certificate in Web-Based Instruction (CWI), an online program to teach participants to design, produce, and teach online courses. The CWI instructors will give presentations to respond to questions about the next offering of the program, scheduled on June 2nd. There will be three presentation sessions in May: May 12 - 1200hrs Pacific Time (GMT -08:00), May 21 - 1700hrs Pacific Time (GMT -08:00), and May 26 - 0800hrs Pacific Time (GMT -08:00). These interactive presentations will be led by the program instructors Dr. Lucio Teles and Judith Jensen. Please go to http://www.sfu.ca/lidc/telestraining for more information and to register for the presentation sessions. If you have questions about the program, please contact Jill Jodrey at jajodrey(a)sfu.ca Derek Lee

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people blocking "all APNIC space"
by Joe Abley 04 May '03

04 May '03

There's recurring wisdom on other lists that people outside the Asia Pacific region routinely block "all APNIC space" in order to reduce the amount of spam they receive (the most recent example was on NANOG, when someone inferred that APNIC address space was useless because it is so regularly blocked). I've run MTAs numbered within 202/8 and 203/8 before, and I've never noticed a problem; if the practice of blocking all APNIC space was that commonplace, I would have expected to have noticed. Maybe I was just lucky, or maybe these block-happy ISPs don't include 202/8 and 203/8 in "all APNIC space". Anybody here noticed widespread blocking of any APNIC ranges by ISPs elsewhere in the world? Joe

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RE: [nznog] IPv6 in NZ?
by Paul Brislen 04 May '03

04 May '03

In defence of the Xtra PR spokeswoman Anna, I have to say she is entirely new to the world of ICT and when I asked her about IP numbers/addresses she'd never heard the term before... I asked her about IPv6 more as a separate point ("... and what about plans to roll out IPv6?") rather than as a solution to the allocation issue... I guess it's not really on topic to have it in the story alongside the rest but she had so little to say on the matter (oddly) that there really wasn't enough for a separate story.

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OT - Remote access
by rod_christie＠wilsonandhorton.co.nz 30 Apr '03

30 Apr '03

OT - Is anyone working on anything new for high-speed remote access, for areas that will never yet DSL or other cable services? Satellite with dialup is fine, but after 15 km of copper, having bypassed electric fence units, then factoring encapsulation, corporate VPN, and remote access client to said box, more gg's would be good. It's a question I get asked from time to time. Any suggestions would be good. Reply of list. Cheers Rod Christie APN News & Media *************************************************************************** This may contain privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of Wilson & Horton Limited. For more information on Wilson & Horton please visit our web site at http://www.wilsonandhorton.co.nz ***************************************************************************

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Re: [nznog] people blocking "all APNIC space"
by Steve Phillips 29 Apr '03

29 Apr '03

Just recently came across another blocking of 210.0.0.0/8 with chat servers. While probably not considered by many to be a productive service :-) it does still show attitudes that say "APNIC ? forget it" and this attitude appears to be markedly prevalent amongst US based admins and now appears to be expanding to cover services other than e-mail. -- Steve. At 11:46 30/04/2003 +1200, Alastair Johnson wrote: >Yes - we have seen this quite reguarly. Specifically, the >210/8 network seems particuarly disliked. > >pbi.net used to block connections from 210/8 but not from >202/7 for a good part of 2002. > > >We have customers complain about it every so often, but I forget >what the most recent case was - some little ISP in TX, IIRC. > > >aj... > >On Tue, 29 Apr 2003, Joe Abley wrote: > > > Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 19:35:10 -0400 > > From: Joe Abley <jabley(a)automagic.org> > > To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > Subject: [nznog] people blocking "all APNIC space" > > > > There's recurring wisdom on other lists that people outside the Asia > > Pacific region routinely block "all APNIC space" in order to reduce the > > amount of spam they receive (the most recent example was on NANOG, when > > someone inferred that APNIC address space was useless because it is so > > regularly blocked). > > > > I've run MTAs numbered within 202/8 and 203/8 before, and I've never > > noticed a problem; if the practice of blocking all APNIC space was that > > commonplace, I would have expected to have noticed. Maybe I was just > > lucky, or maybe these block-happy ISPs don't include 202/8 and 203/8 in > > "all APNIC space". > > > > Anybody here noticed widespread blocking of any APNIC ranges by ISPs > > elsewhere in the world? > > > > > > Joe > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Nznog mailing list > > Nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > > > >--- >Never attempt with words what can be achieved with a flame thrower. > >_______________________________________________ >Nznog mailing list >Nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

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