> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joerg Micheel [SMTP:joerg(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz]
> Sent: Thursday, 23 May 2002 09:41
> To: Roger De Salis
> Cc: Dean Pemberton; NZNOG List; k claffy; David Moore
> Subject: Re: WIX/APE route servers (WARNING useful content)
>
> On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 08:24:59PM +1200, Roger De Salis wrote:
> > APNIC quote several examples of poor policy within national
> > communications framework where local traffic travels to the US
> > backbone and back, due to local regualtions that make peering
> > impossible. (India is a classic example.)
>
> We have backbone data from an OC48MON in San Jose which confirms
> this kind of erratic routing for a number of countries in the
> Asia Pacific. If you need more details, we should get CAIDA
> involved in this discussion.
>
This discussion has a direct bearing on the matter of international Internet
charging about which I have posted on a number of occasions. There is a
widespread movement in intergovernmental organisations (APEC TEL, APT,
ITU-T, ITU-D) attempting to first measure international traffic (nothing
wrong with that), second assess who benefits (by some yet to be determined
means), and then through some regulatory mechanism institute a 'fairer' cost
sharing mechanism.
There is no prize for essays outlining the numerous pitfalls in all of this.
At the same time, there is some evidence that NZ is quite disadvantaged cf
US operators by the present 'smallest ISP/carrier carries all the
connnection costs' system. For example we have some very new survey results
indicating that 18% of NZ firms with 50+ staff locate their web sites off
shore (presumably, mainly in the US). Having better peering systems
world-wide would not actually assist NZ much in this as we face the same
problem with links to Australia and Asia as we do to the US. Nevertheless,
saner peering would reduce costs overall and increase reliability, decrease
latency, etc.
I would very much appreciate anyone with information relating to influences
on current traffic flows and especially regulatory effects, such as the
regulatory system in India which prevents local peering, contacting me
directly.
Frank March
Specialist Advisor, IT Policy Group
Ministry of Economic Development, PO Box 1473, Wellington, NZ
Ph: (+64 4) 474 2908; Fax: (+64 4) 471 2658
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