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Re: Spam on the increase ?
by Simon Byrnand 07 Jan '02

07 Jan '02

At 11:15 8/01/02 +1300, Andy Linton wrote: >I think you're fighting a losing battle in many ways here. Maybe so, but... >The model for advertising on the Internet was touted as 'ads on web >pages' with click through etc. It's not exactly been a raging success - >I'd hypothesise that these spammers you're upset about are the Satchi and >Satchi of tomorrow. It's not going away and you have to learn to ignore it >just like you have to ignore the ads on TV. Here I disagree. I don't think anyone should need to learn to ignore spam with explicit pictures being shoved in their face every day. It's one thing to visit a website of your own free will and then see an advert you dont like, its quite another to receive it unsolicited. To use your own analogy its like TV advertisers being able to force you to watch their ads even when the TV is turned OFF. :) It's all too easy for people to throw their hands in the air and just give up in the face of what seems like a losing battle, but as soon as we do that, the spammers have won. Regards, Simon - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: NZNOG Conference 2002
by Donald Neal 07 Jan '02

07 Jan '02

Dean, -- Donald Neal Special Operations Network Delivery Telecom New Zealand Ltd >>> "Dean Pemberton" <dean(a)flatnet.gen.nz> 01/08/02 04:08 >>> >I'd be interested in hearing what people think about the Vendor vs >Non-Vendor approach. >On the one hand making it Non-Vendor keeps it like the list. A place >for people to swap ideas and now have Vendors jump in with an axe to >grind. >On the other hand. Vendors with axe's to grind == money. >And they can spring for beer/giveaways/etc. >Hard to know what people want to do here. I don't see this as either/or. Apart from the issues you raise, there is definitely an audience for presentations by vendor staff who know what they're talking about, subject to simple rules about not being too rude about other companies except Microsoft. >> One option would be a stand-alone event either in Auckland or Wellington >> (i.e. Auckland?) though our non-existant financial structure might cause >> problems with that. Another would be to clip ourselves onto the side of >> some moderately relevant conference such as that now being planned by >> UniForum NZ for mid-year, in the hope of avoiding all that tedious >> mucking about with venues and things. (No, I have not discussed this >> with UniForum NZ, though at least one of their board is sympathetic. >> :{)* ) >Uni-Who? Are they still having conferences? So far as I'm aware, they're the only (other?) organisation seeking to run a national conference for geeks. If anyone knows of another ... - Donald Neal ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you." ============================================================================== - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Open proxies - was RE: Spam on the increase ?
by Phill Groom 07 Jan '02

07 Jan '02

-----Original Message----- From: Andy Linton [SMTP:asjl(a)lionra.net.nz] >The model for advertising on the Internet was touted as 'ads on web >pages' with click through etc. It's not exactly been a raging success - Slightly related - During a moment of stupidity (I blame the shift in magnetic fields due to my being temporarily relocated some thousands of kilometers from my true home) I inadvertently removed the all important "#" from "#ProxyRequests On" on an apache box.. It took some time and someone far more cluefull than myself to relate this mistake with the strange GET's I started seeing in my http logs a few months later. I was seeing GET's for banner ads at a rate of a couple a day. Turns out my box and many other open proxies around the world were being used to proxy banner add hits to generate revenue for the scum who had the financial relationship with the banner add company. They needed to make the hits look as though they were coming from joe random customers hence the use of many open proxies. Something else to watch for. Phill. - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Spam on the increase
by Michael Hallager 07 Jan '02

07 Jan '02

HI all, I did notice this too. (To my own personal box). Good that the headers are still in english.... :-) The funniest one, (This one in english) was the one sent to abuse(a)comsolve.net.nz, which I setup to take AUP style complaints. (None recieved yet though). Out of all the mail addresses @comsolve.net.nz, that was most appropriate. Shows spammers don't have any sense... :-) Best regards, -- Michael Hallager Managing Director Comsolve Networks (NZ) Limited E-Mail: michael(a)comsolve.net.nz Website: http://www.comsolve.net.nz Proudly providing hosting exclusively to 100% family-safe content sites. - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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another NZNOG archive
by Joe Abley 05 Jan '02

05 Jan '02

http://www.anos.org.au/groups/newzealand/nznogframe.html Excellent :) - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: Sort of OT: are there any "Internet enabled" temperature sens ors/servers for Auckland?
by Denis Gordon 05 Jan '02

05 Jan '02

Weather Underground also has some (relatively) up to date NZ readings. Some of them are a bit out of the way though. http://www.wunderground.com/global/NZ.html --- Denis Gordon Network Administrator Information Systems Technical Support Dunedin City Council 50 The Octagon, PO Box 5045, Dunedin, New Zealand Ph: +64-3-474 3566 Fax: +64-3-474 3503 Mobile: 025 845 583 Email: denis(a)dcc.govt.nz WWW: http://www.CityOfDunedin.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Andy Gardner [mailto:andy(a)navigator.co.nz] Sent: Wednesday, 2 January 2002 3:57pm To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: Sort of OT: are there any "Internet enabled" temperature sensors/servers for Auckland? At 3:47 PM +1300 2/1/02, Juha Saarinen wrote: >Measuring the outside temperature, with geographic location given. - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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OT - webcam locations and my weather station
by Richard Naylor 03 Jan '02

03 Jan '02

Thank you to all those who brightened up my day with suggestions on webcam locations. (I'm sick in bed with a bad cold/flu). The suggestions brought on many coughing fits and my wife threatened to take the lappy away (wireless cards rule). Some suggestions were, + Kelburn - ah isn't there a large "national" organisation doing this stuff ? (remember at least one cam has a weather station) + Holt Cres, Ottawa - + Devonport, Auckland - A citylink weather station and cam IS coming to downtown AKL + Tasmania + Piha Beach + Wellington Stadium - we already have a camera there on a lighting tower. Must install the IP stuff........ + Outside the Mermaid Bar. - Inside would get more hits ! (Where is this bar Sid ?) And yes I KNOW Tawa is both windy and cold. I live there. Thank you for the many kind and thoughtful comments on our weather. There is no external cam at home otherwise you would all tell me to cut the grass. I am managing to get my sons to do that. I do the mower and weed eater repairs <sigh> However, Jeremy has a camera at http://www.r2.co.nz/~jeremy/webcam/ - If you have any REALLY funny locations for web cams or ones that might endear teh Internet to the rest of the population (like avoiding motorway queues, etc) please let me know off list. I think we haven't had enough fun lately rich richard.naylor(a)citylink.co.nz - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Apache / PHP4
by Michael Hallager 03 Jan '02

03 Jan '02

Hi all, Anyone know of a hack/crack/wayaround to restart Apache from a PHP4 WEB script (Or combination of stuff) without running the VirtualHost as "root". More information on what I have done will be provided offlist. In exchange for this much-needed information, I am prepared to advise how to run Apache VirtualHosts purely from an SQL database.... :-) (If thats of any interest) Please message me offlist. Best regards, -- Michael Hallager Managing Director Comsolve Networks (NZ) Limited E-Mail: michael(a)comsolve.net.nz Website: http://www.comsolve.net.nz Proudly providing hosting exclusively to 100% family-safe content sites. - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: XTRA's DNS, WHF is going on.....?
by Michael Hallager 03 Jan '02

03 Jan '02

Thanks Simon, As per the email sent directly to you, this possibility has been covered. The mail is being rejected by "mail.connected.net.nz". For the lists information, I provide the following: <COPY> Reporting-MTA: dns; mta2.xtra.co.nz Arrival-Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 19:22:12 +1300 Received-From-MTA: dns; profix002 (210.54.79.164) Final-Recipient: RFC822; <sales(a)comsolve.co.nz> Action: failed Status: 5.1.3 Remote-MTA: dns; mail.connected.net.nz (202.180.73.237) Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1) Final-Recipient: RFC822; <michael(a)comsolve.co.nz> Action: failed Status: 5.1.3 Remote-MTA: dns; mail.connected.net.nz (202.180.73.237) Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1) </COPY> Xtra's helpdesk is looking into the matter. They say that the problem APPEARS to be at their end. Users of other ISP's have no such issues with comsolve.co.nz. I would like to express my gratitude to the following: (For their assistance) Wally, So Bradford, Juha, Simon and members of the Xtra helpdesk for looking into this matter. (And anyone else I have missed). Best regards, Michael Hallager Unix Systems Administrator / Managing Director Comsolve Networks (NZ) Limited http://www.comsolve.net.nz On Friday 04 January 2002 22:26, you wrote: > On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Michael Hallager wrote: > > Mail from Xtra users to "anything(a)comsolve.co.nz" is being bounced > > back to them along with a .dat information file. > > > > Closer inspection of this .dat file reveals that Xtra's (DNS servers?) > > thinks that mail.connected.net.nz is STILL the destination mail server > > despite me not being with Connected since 1998. > > > > Yes- I have kept my DNS zonefiles and Domainz information well > > up-to-date for the last 4 years since moving from Connected and > > running my own mailserver.... > > > > This may merit some looking into. I have contacted Xtra and found > > their (Contracted to Teletech) helpdesk helpful enough (Even though > > I have never been a client of Xtra's) but unable to assist with > > somewhat technical matters of this nature. (They are passing the > > matter on they say). > > > > How many others have been caught out like this? > > I have seen this at least once before, what it was the domain had > previously used Xtra for it's mail, later on they moved to ihug but their > config wasn't removed from all of Xtra's mailservers. So some mail from > Xtra attempted to go to the old mailboxes (which no longer existed). > > From memory Xtra cleared it up pretty quickly once they were aware of it. > postmaster(a)xtra.co.nz would be the natural person to contact. Thanks Simon, As per the email sent directly to you, this possibility has been covered. The mail is being rejected by "mail.connected.net.nz". For the lists information, I provide the following: <COPY> Reporting-MTA: dns; mta2.xtra.co.nz Arrival-Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 19:22:12 +1300 Received-From-MTA: dns; profix002 (210.54.79.164) Final-Recipient: RFC822; <sales(a)comsolve.co.nz> Action: failed Status: 5.1.3 Remote-MTA: dns; mail.connected.net.nz (202.180.73.237) Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1) Final-Recipient: RFC822; <michael(a)comsolve.co.nz> Action: failed Status: 5.1.3 Remote-MTA: dns; mail.connected.net.nz (202.180.73.237) Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1) </COPY> Xtra's helpdesk is looking into the matter. They say that the problem APPEARS to be at their end. Users of other ISP's have no such issues with comsolve.co.nz. I would like to express my gratitude to the following: (For their assistance) Wally, So Bradford, Juha, Simon and members of the Xtra helpdesk for looking into this matter. (And anyone else I have missed). Best regards, Michael Hallager Unix Systems Administrator / Managing Director Comsolve Networks (NZ) Limited http://www.comsolve.net.nz On Friday 04 January 2002 22:26, you wrote: > On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Michael Hallager wrote: > > Mail from Xtra users to "anything(a)comsolve.co.nz" is being bounced > > back to them along with a .dat information file. > > > > Closer inspection of this .dat file reveals that Xtra's (DNS servers?) > > thinks that mail.connected.net.nz is STILL the destination mail server > > despite me not being with Connected since 1998. > > > > Yes- I have kept my DNS zonefiles and Domainz information well > > up-to-date for the last 4 years since moving from Connected and > > running my own mailserver.... > > > > This may merit some looking into. I have contacted Xtra and found > > their (Contracted to Teletech) helpdesk helpful enough (Even though > > I have never been a client of Xtra's) but unable to assist with > > somewhat technical matters of this nature. (They are passing the > > matter on they say). > > > > How many others have been caught out like this? > > I have seen this at least once before, what it was the domain had > previously used Xtra for it's mail, later on they moved to ihug but their > config wasn't removed from all of Xtra's mailservers. So some mail from > Xtra attempted to go to the old mailboxes (which no longer existed). > > From memory Xtra cleared it up pretty quickly once they were aware of it. > postmaster(a)xtra.co.nz would be the natural person to contact. ------------------------------------------------------- - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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XTRA's DNS, WHF is going on.....?
by Michael Hallager 03 Jan '02

03 Jan '02

Hi all, Mail from Xtra users to "anything(a)comsolve.co.nz" is being bounced back to them along with a .dat information file. Closer inspection of this .dat file reveals that Xtra's (DNS servers?) thinks that mail.connected.net.nz is STILL the destination mail server despite me not being with Connected since 1998. Yes- I have kept my DNS zonefiles and Domainz information well up-to-date for the last 4 years since moving from Connected and running my own mailserver.... This may merit some looking into. I have contacted Xtra and found their (Contracted to Teletech) helpdesk helpful enough (Even though I have never been a client of Xtra's) but unable to assist with somewhat technical matters of this nature. (They are passing the matter on they say). How many others have been caught out like this? Best regards, Michael Hallager Unix Systems Administrator / Managing Director Comsolve Networks (NZ) Limited http://www.comsolve.net.nz PS) Luckily all my users have their own domain names or use @comsolve.NET.nz email addresses! - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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