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Re: Speed of the list
by Ewen McNeill 01 Sep '01

01 Sep '01

In message <20010829125016.S7096(a)wilbur.katipo.co.nz>, Dean Pemberton writes: >[nznog; messages take a while to come out] >I can remember some guy from BSDi talking at uniforum in 98 about how sendmail >was crap at this. [addresses that don't resolve, etc, can kill whole list] Not to rain on anyone's parade, but most mailing list software injects messages in queue mode (to avoid an explosion of MTA processes trying to send the messages out immediately (in the background)). This then relies on the MTA queue processing to shift the messages out. Has anyone checked how often the queue is run on the relevant server? If it's every 30 minutes it'd pretty much exactly explain the times reported. If it's every 15 minutes (a common default with sendmail), then 15-minutes plus isn't that unlikely to happen given the right circumstances. For a mailing list of a few hundred addresses, it should be a walk in the park for most MTAs, sendmail included. Ewen --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Wireless LAN equipment
by Richard Stevenson 31 Aug '01

31 Aug '01

Hi all In the interests of keeping my soon-to-be-landlord happy, I'm looking at building a wireless LAN rather than making holes in the 13-month-old house I'm about to move into. Can anyone recommend any particular equipment, suppliers, sources of information? It'll only be a small network to start with - five systems, though it'll grow; I have a nasty habit of accumulating junk :P Many thanks Richard -- Richard Stevenson, Systems Specialist, Xtra Limited Phone: +64 9 355 5231 Mobile: +64 25 290 3101 Pager: +64 26 100 155 "Visual $ANYTHING" just screams out "100% suckage or your money back". -- Tanuki the Raccoon-dog, in the Monastery --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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This is not London calling
by Juha Saarinen 31 Aug '01

31 Aug '01

pts/1 juha(a)vimfuego:~$ ping news.bbc.co.uk ping: unknown host news.bbc.co.uk Kerrap. Jetstream? Or somewhere else? bash-2.05$ ping news.bbc.co.uk PING newswww.bbc.net.uk (212.58.226.40): 56 data bytes 36 bytes from 202.84.249.66: Time to live exceeded Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst 4 5 00 5400 420b 0 0000 01 01 8ae0 210.48.100.42 212.58.226.40 36 bytes from 202.84.249.66: Time to live exceeded Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst 4 5 00 5400 420d 0 0000 01 01 8ade 210.48.100.42 212.58.226.40 36 bytes from 202.84.249.66: Time to live exceeded Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst 4 5 00 5400 420e 0 0000 01 01 8add 210.48.100.42 212.58.226.40 36 bytes from 202.84.249.66: Time to live exceeded Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst 4 5 00 5400 420f 0 0000 01 01 8adc 210.48.100.42 212.58.226.40 36 bytes from 202.84.249.66: Time to live exceeded Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst 4 5 00 5400 4210 0 0000 01 01 8adb 210.48.100.42 212.58.226.40 36 bytes from 202.84.249.66: Time to live exceeded Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst 4 5 00 5400 4211 0 0000 01 01 8ada 210.48.100.42 212.58.226.40 Hrrmmm... bash-2.05$ traceroute 212.58.226.40 traceroute to 212.58.226.40 (212.58.226.40), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 210.48.100.1 (210.48.100.1) 1.975 ms 2.543 ms 1.746 ms 2 s0.ts9.ak.nz.asiaonline.net (210.48.2.1) 12.198 ms 12.155 ms 14.796 ms 3 f1-0.gw2.ak.nz.asiaonline.net (202.14.100.254) 53.810 ms 12.707 ms 12.221 ms 4 f0-0.gw1.ak.nz.asiaonline.net (210.48.1.1) 12.617 ms 12.623 ms 13.230 ms 5 g0-1-0-221.b4.sxb.tsnz.net (203.98.4.205) 13.391 ms 13.481 ms 12.665 ms 6 GE0-0-0.nzsx-core1.Auckland.telstra.net (203.98.4.3) 16.891 ms 22.031 ms 18.472 ms 7 GigabitEthernet4-0-0.nzsx-core2.Auckland.net.reach.com (203.50.126.58) 26.852 ms 26.061 ms 22.163 ms 8 202.84.249.129 (202.84.249.129) 153.251 ms 153.572 ms 146.691 ms 9 202.84.249.66 (202.84.249.66) 227.914 ms 228.862 ms 224.985 ms 10 202.84.249.65 (202.84.249.65) 229.739 ms 221.260 ms 231.744 ms 11 202.84.249.66 (202.84.249.66) 309.732 ms 308.025 ms 305.737 ms 12 202.84.249.65 (202.84.249.65) 307.482 ms 300.437 ms 319.887 ms 13 202.84.249.66 (202.84.249.66) 456.585 ms 383.322 ms 377.616 ms 14 202.84.249.65 (202.84.249.65) 375.120 ms 377.874 ms 376.425 ms 15 202.84.249.66 (202.84.249.66) 453.441 ms 454.953 ms 457.326 ms 16 202.84.249.65 (202.84.249.65) 458.146 ms 454.757 ms 449.970 ms 17 202.84.249.66 (202.84.249.66) 536.290 ms 532.411 ms 533.366 ms 18 202.84.249.65 (202.84.249.65) 530.822 ms 592.469 ms 526.726 ms 19 202.84.249.66 (202.84.249.66) 602.030 ms 601.476 ms 607.230 ms 20 202.84.249.65 (202.84.249.65) 605.603 ms 627.870 ms 605.202 ms 21 202.84.249.66 (202.84.249.66) 682.281 ms 687.296 ms 675.443 ms 22 202.84.249.65 (202.84.249.65) 680.571 ms 679.806 ms 677.157 ms 23 202.84.249.66 (202.84.249.66) 755.965 ms 775.068 ms 757.381 ms 24 202.84.249.65 (202.84.249.65) 758.296 ms 754.893 ms 764.393 ms 25 202.84.249.66 (202.84.249.66) 833.034 ms 834.038 ms 832.465 ms 26 202.84.249.65 (202.84.249.65) 833.672 ms 832.952 ms 836.438 ms 27 202.84.249.66 (202.84.249.66) 910.692 ms 911.639 ms 910.117 ms 28 202.84.249.65 (202.84.249.65) 906.542 ms 908.851 ms 908.012 ms 29 202.84.249.66 (202.84.249.66) 991.594 ms 986.891 ms 987.188 ms 30 202.84.249.65 (202.84.249.65) 988.047 ms 985.131 ms 1053.931 ms bash-2.05$ whois -h whois.apnic.net 202.84.249.65 % Rights restricted by copyright. See http://www.apnic.net/db/dbcopyright.html % (whois6.apnic.net) inetnum: 202.84.248.0 - 202.84.251.255 netname: FIJI-HK descr: Fiji descr: 41/F, Telecom Tower descr: Taikoo Place, Quarry Bay descr: HK country: HK admin-c: AC11-HK tech-c: PW6-HK rev-srv: rs.hkt.net rev-srv: nsx.hkt.com notify: dbmon(a)apnic.net mnt-by: MAINT-HKT changed: wwong(a)hkt.net 960814 source: APNIC person: Aurea Cheung address: 41/F, Telecom Tower address: Taikoo Place, Quarry Bay address: HK phone: +852-28830025 fax-no: +852-29625290 nic-hdl: AC11-HK notify: dbmon(a)apnic.net mnt-by: MAINT-HKT changed: wwong(a)hkt.net 960814 source: APNIC person: Philip Watt address: 41/F, Telecom Tower address: Taikoo Place, Quarry Bay address: HK phone: +679-311300 nic-hdl: PW6-HK notify: dbmon(a)apnic.net mnt-by: MAINT-HKT changed: wwong(a)hkt.net 960814 source: APNIC -- Juha Saarinen --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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FW: Wireless LAN equipment
by Steven Perich 30 Aug '01

30 Aug '01

> Security, both physical and systems, is of utmost importance. The couch > might seem a perfect place to rack mount your equipment however it is by no > means secure. I would recommend mounting the switch and any other equipment > in a lockable cabinet, such as the oven (true geeks don't cook) and running > cable through a duct drilled through the back of it. Additionally, > electronic locking systems can be bolted to the hinged door and survelliance > installed throughout the kitchen. And the warmer drawer makes an ideal > place to store a change notebook, extra patch leads, etc. Oh! I almost forgot. After you've mounted your switch/router/firewall etc in your oven cum 19" rack, you can take advantage of the convenient Window Kit already installed. As well as being able to look in and watch the Pretty Blinking Lights(tm) at your convenience, you could install a neon light stick (such as http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/fun-stuff/3738.shtml) and wire it up to the oven's light switch! Other enhancements; lining the inside of the oven with black speaker box carpet and buying a small tubular lava lamp and strategically place it for maximum effect. :-) BTW: What the hell's this? http://www.eurus.dti.ne.jp/~yoshi-w/audio/zoom2/auto9.jpg Reckon it might end up on our shores in about 5 years time? Steve --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: Wireless LAN equipment
by Sharpe, Russell 30 Aug '01

30 Aug '01

Hi Richard, If you only need 2Meg, rather than 11Meg, there are hundreds of 2M cards on the market cheap, which you could use in an "Ad Hoc" or Personal Area Network of about 20 metres. I have a couple that I could fire off to you if you so desire (I haven't the drivers, but I know that you are resourceful) Russell Sharpe -----Original Message----- From: Richard Stevenson [mailto:richard.stevenson(a)team.xtra.co.nz] Sent: Friday, 31 August 2001 17:02 To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Wireless LAN equipment Hi all In the interests of keeping my soon-to-be-landlord happy, I'm looking at building a wireless LAN rather than making holes in the 13-month-old house I'm about to move into. Can anyone recommend any particular equipment, suppliers, sources of information? It'll only be a small network to start with - five systems, though it'll grow; I have a nasty habit of accumulating junk :P Many thanks Richard -- Richard Stevenson, Systems Specialist, Xtra Limited Phone: +64 9 355 5231 Mobile: +64 25 290 3101 Pager: +64 26 100 155 "Visual $ANYTHING" just screams out "100% suckage or your money back". -- Tanuki the Raccoon-dog, in the Monastery --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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TSNZ international routes stuffed... again?
by Juha Saarinen 30 Aug '01

30 Aug '01

# ping www.above.net ping: unknown host www.above.net # ping www.mfnx.net ping: unknown host www.mfnx.net ... but, a few seconds later: # ping www.mfnx.net PING hs-d1.s.mfnx.net (64.125.31.9) from 192.168.1.1 : 56(84) bytes of data. --- hs-d1.s.mfnx.net ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss # ping www.above.net PING www.above.net (207.126.96.163) from 192.168.1.1 : 56(84) bytes of data. --- www.above.net ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss Happens quite frequently these days. -- Juha Saarinen --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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TSNZ <-> Above.net stuffed...
by Juha Saarinen 30 Aug '01

30 Aug '01

AFAICT. Anyone else seeing this? -- Juha Saarinen --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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[msa@samurai.sfo.dead-dog.com: Re: BGP Instability]
by Joe Abley 30 Aug '01

30 Aug '01

----- Forwarded message from "Majdi S. Abbas" <msa(a)samurai.sfo.dead-dog.com> ----- Delivered-To: jabley-nanog(a)automagic.org Delivered-To: nanog-outgoing(a)trapdoor.merit.edu Delivered-To: nanog(a)trapdoor.merit.edu Delivered-To: nanog(a)merit.edu Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 15:25:34 -0700 From: "Majdi S. Abbas" <msa(a)samurai.sfo.dead-dog.com> To: Mark Borchers <mborchers(a)splitrock.net> Cc: "'nanog(a)merit.edu'" <nanog(a)merit.edu> Subject: Re: BGP Instability User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <CA47B6D616C0D211B92E0008C7C5657C115C1757(a)hscmpxsrvcl01>; from mborchers(a)splitrock.net on Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 04:47:50PM -0500 Precedence: bulk Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing(a)merit.edu X-Loop: nanog On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 04:47:50PM -0500, Mark Borchers wrote: > Currently seeing unusually high numbers of routes being > dampened (~11K). The common denominator seems to be AS 4637 > in the as-path of most of the dampened prefixes. Is any > further information known? Yes. Telstra/4637 is leaking what appears to be a full table to many peers and at least two of their transit providers (that I've talked to). I called an engineer at Telstra and they expect to have this resolved soon. --msa ----- End forwarded message ----- --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Speed of the list
by Dean Pemberton 29 Aug '01

29 Aug '01

Is it just me or is the list taking REALLY long to deliver things lately? Here is the message that I sent [lines removed] Aug 28 18:25:00 wilbur qmail: 998979900.410497 new msg 113746 Aug 28 18:25:00 wilbur qmail: 998979900.416632 starting delivery 57885: msg 113746 to remote nj.lee(a)plumtree.co.nz Aug 28 18:25:00 wilbur qmail: 998979900.416792 starting delivery 57886: msg 113746 to remote juha(a)saarinen.org Aug 28 18:25:00 wilbur qmail: 998979900.416836 starting delivery 57887: msg 113746 to remote nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Aug 28 18:25:00 wilbur qmail: 998979900.832619 delivery 57887: success: 130.217.76.30_accepted_message./Remote_host_said:_250_2.0.0_ f7S6P0Y23521_Message_accepted_for_delivery/ Aug 28 18:25:01 wilbur qmail: 998979901.629689 delivery 57885: success: 203.79.82.83_accepted_message./Remote_host_said:_250_ok_9989 79901_qp_8921/ Aug 28 18:25:01 wilbur qmail: 998979901.759181 delivery 57886: success: 203.79.82.14_accepted_message./Remote_host_said:_250_OK_id=1 5bcJ3-0001YW-00/ Aug 28 18:25:01 wilbur qmail: 998979901.759326 end msg 113746 And here is when the list sent it out Aug 28 18:55:18 wilbur qmail: 998981718.390982 new msg 113746 Aug 28 18:55:18 wilbur qmail: 998981718.391126 info msg 113746: bytes 8254 from <owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> qp 26679 uid 64011 Aug 28 18:55:18 wilbur qmail: 998981718.392633 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 Aug 28 18:55:18 wilbur qmail: 998981718.402411 new msg 115443 Aug 28 18:55:18 wilbur qmail: 998981718.402568 info msg 115443: bytes 8368 from <owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> qp 26682 uid 1004 Aug 28 18:55:18 wilbur qmail: 998981718.404193 status: local 2/10 remote 0/20 Aug 28 18:55:18 wilbur qmail: 998981718.404215 delivery 57919: success: did_0+1+0/qp_26682/ Aug 28 18:55:18 wilbur qmail: 998981718.404236 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 Aug 28 18:55:18 wilbur qmail: 998981718.404256 end msg 113746 Aug 28 18:55:18 wilbur qmail: 998981718.411992 delivery 57920: success: did_1+0+0/ Aug 28 18:55:18 wilbur qmail: 998981718.412124 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 Aug 28 18:55:18 wilbur qmail: 998981718.412146 end msg 115443 That took a long time. Dean --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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www.jetstream.co.nz branding Xtra after Telecom Web Site Change
by Craig Whitmore 29 Aug '01

29 Aug '01

Hi everyone... I've noticed after Telecom have revamped their new web site they are now pushing alot for Xtra on the Jetstream Web Site (http://www.jetstream.co.nz). Before the change.. it used to be "ISP Neutral", but now.. its Xtra, Xtra, Xtra :-( I don't know what other people (ISP's including) think.. but I think it should be back to how it was, not pushing any particular ISP, but explaining the service and then giving a list of ISP's to go to get Jetstream from. The First sentence "Get fast Internet access with JetStream. Join Xtra - New Zealand's leading Internet Service Provider." makes it look like Xtra is the only ISP who can offer the service. then "Get online with Xtra"... etc etc Even the links to order it.. make it look like Xtra only as it asks if you want as part of SkyFi as you can only get SkyFi by using Xtra as your ISP I talk for myself with these comments, not anyone I work with/for Thanks Craig Whitmore http://www.nzdsl.co.nz New Zealand DSL Information --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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