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The New Zealand Network Operators' Group
by Donald Neal 08 Jul '01

08 Jul '01

The New Zealand Network Operators' Group The New Zealand Network Operators' Group (NZNOG) has no king, president or formal membership. At present it consists of the subscribers to this mailing list, which anyone is free to join. This list has a little under 250 subscribers, growing by a handful each month. The NZNOG mailing list is provided through a server at The University of Waikato, and is administered by an employee of Telecom NZ Ltd. Neither of these organisations (nor the administrator) is responsible for its content. The following non-working email addresses were recently removed from the list. Their owners are welcome to re-subscribe with working addresses. aleki097(a)student.otago.ac.nz brett.telfer(a)telecom.co.nz steve.hawken(a)ngtmail1.netgate.net.nz NZNOG Mailing List Acceptable Use Policy The NZNOG mailing list exists to provide a forum for the exchange of technical information and the discussion of implementation issues that require cooperation among New Zealand network service providers. In order to continue to provide a useful forum for discussion of relevant technical issues, users of the list are asked to respect the following guidelines. 1. Discussion will focus on Internet operational and technical issues. 2. Discussion related to meetings of network service providers is appropriate. 3. Discussion unrelated to these topics is not appropriate. 4. Postings to multiple mailing lists are discouraged. 5. Postings that include foul language, character assassination, and lack of respect for other participants are unacceptable. 6. Blatant product or service marketing is unacceptable. 7. Postings of a political, philosophical or legal nature are discouraged. 8. Postings to the list should be in ASCII or MIME encoded as text/plain. Attachments should not be sent to the list. To present a document, a suitable URL may be referred to. For documents of general interest, the use of proprietary file formats is discouraged. 9. Breaches of list etiquette should be dealt with privately with the offending list user, and should not result in complaints being sent to the list. Mailing List Archives A full archive is available at http://list.waikato.ac.nz/archives/nznog/ To search the archive, see http://list.waikato.ac.nz/archives/search.html (and remember to select nznog). Subscribing to the List To subscribe to the NZNOG list, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz, where the body of the message reads subscribe nznog There are at present no restrictions on who may subscribe to the list, or even on who may post to the list. Digest Mailing List If you don't wish to receive postings as they are sent, you can instead subscribe to the nznog-digest mailiing list, on which all postings are sent out in a single "digest" every couple of days. Other Activities NZNOG does not at present have other regular activities than this mailing list. Donald Neal NZNOG Mailing List Owner/Administrator/Muggins --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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ORBS probes continue...
by cw＠f00f.org 05 Jul '01

05 Jul '01

I'm still seeing ORBS probe-messages... when I spoke to Alan last he told me ORBS would probably die as a result of the QSI takeover the the MIS user base. Now, these probe-messages are from one of the offshore probes, so I am left to wonder, migjt ORBS life on, are these remote probes still running waitning to be turned down? --cw --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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FW: Shared Registry System Implementation
by Peter Mott 01 Jul '01

01 Jul '01

Please bring this to the attention of folk in your organisation who may have an interest: > -----Original Message----- > From: Donna Hiser [mailto:d.hiser(a)domainz.net.nz] > Sent: Wednesday, 27 June 2001 11:22 a.m. > To: dns(a)2day.com > Subject: Shared Registry System Implementation > > SHARED REGISTRY SYSTEM IMPLEMENTATION > > As you may know ISOCNZ has appointed an SRS Implementation Manager, Rose > Percival, to manage the planning, design and rollout of the new shared > registry system. > > Rose has now drafted high level requirements for the SRS and has set up a > mailing list as a vehicle for those who wish to provide input into the > different aspects of the SRS as they are developed. > > The SRS Implementation Committee have now asked me to advise you of the > existence of this list, and to invite you on their behalf, to subscribe to > it. To do so, please go to > http://www.isocnz.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/srs-implementation. They also > invite you to consider the requirements definition document (at > http://www.isocnz.org.nz/srs ) and to provide any feedback either directly > to Rose or via the SRS Implementation list. > > If you have any concerns or queries about this, please contact the SRS > Implementation Manager (Rose Percival) directly at > rose.percival(a)isocnz.org.nz. Peter Mott Chief Enthusiast 2day.com -/- --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Any Xtra mail admins on NZNOG?
by Ted Grenfell 25 Jun '01

25 Jun '01

That IP is in use by smtp.jabmail.net and is not an Xtra MTA. Jabmail.com NZ Ltd are apparently having some problems with their DNS server(s) at the moment. At 10:19 26/06/2001, Juha Saarinen wrote: >If so, could you please contact me? We have a problem with one MTA >(210.54.238.40) bouncing *all* mail going to it with a "550 - Relaying >prohibited". > >Other MTAs at Xtra receive mail fine. > >-- >Regards, > > >Juha > >PGP fingerprint: >B7E1 CC52 5FCA 9756 B502 10C8 4CD8 B066 12F3 9544 > > > > >--------- >To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >where the body of your message reads: >unsubscribe nznog -- Ted Grenfell Xtra ISP Performance Manager Mob 025 435 455; DDI 09 359 5854; Fax 09 362 8100 Level 13, Telecom Tower, 16 Kingston St, Private Bag 92028, Auckland

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Any Xtra mail admins on NZNOG?
by Juha Saarinen 25 Jun '01

25 Jun '01

If so, could you please contact me? We have a problem with one MTA (210.54.238.40) bouncing *all* mail going to it with a "550 - Relaying prohibited". Other MTAs at Xtra receive mail fine. -- Regards, Juha PGP fingerprint: B7E1 CC52 5FCA 9756 B502 10C8 4CD8 B066 12F3 9544 --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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nz bgp stats, first puny attempt
by Joe Abley 24 Jun '01

24 Jun '01

Hello, I have a few bgp sessions up with a corresponding number of friendly people around the place, and have what I think is a reasonable view of the NZ network. I haven't amassed enough data to do anything particularly interesting yet, but I thought I'd hack one thing together quickly since I've heard a few people asking for it: see http://maggie.automagic.org/ for lists of "NZ networks" and "NZ ASNs" (there are some more precise descriptions on that page). People interested in delineating national and international traffic every month, for example, might find http://maggie.automagic.org/nzbgp/aggregates.month (or one of the specific-month snapshots) useful. Possibly even more useful when it has more than a few hours' worth of data in it. If anybody feels like donating additional views of the BGP table, so that I can try to keep this (and future) data as representative as possible, all I need is a multi-hop ebgp session terminating on 202.89.128.76 in AS65517; drop me a line if you feel like setting something up. Many thanks to those who have set one up for me already. Oh, and if you see something in the data that is clearly wrong, please let me know that too :) Joe --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Open Letter to all NZ ISPs and users of NZNOG
by T McC 18 Jun '01

18 Jun '01

Please find attached an Open Letter to all ISPs in New Zealand and all users of NZNOG. This is in no way to be treated as SPAM. It is in response to the many misconceptions and uninformed comments made by ISPs in New Zealand and users of NZNOG as a result of the email I sent to ISPs in New Zealand asking them to adjust their server settings to accept access to the .z extension. Please read it and if any one has any comments or requires any further information please contact me. Yours Trevarr McCarthy President The Wapterix Internet Group -- _______________________________________________ FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Make PC-to-Phone calls with Net2Phone. Sign-up today at: http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?121 -- _______________________________________________ FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Make PC-to-Phone calls with Net2Phone. Sign-up today at: http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?121

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Proxy ARP on APE
by Simon Blake 17 Jun '01

17 Jun '01

Evening all simon(a)magellan:~$ nmap -sP 192.203.154.0/24 -n ... Nmap run completed -- 256 IP addresses (145 hosts up) scanned in 23 seconds simon(a)magellan:~$ sudo arp -van | grep 00:E0:34:B9:C4:45 | wc 128 896 7295 Whoever has 00:E0:34:B9:C4:45 (I'm guessing either Zivo or QSI, since it's on the Clear IP Express interconnect), please make it stop, or I *will* drop it in a MAC filter to make the problem go away. Cheers Si --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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(no subject)
by Adam Moore 17 Jun '01

17 Jun '01

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the ALT.ROOTS an introduction
by !Dr. Joe Baptista 17 Jun '01

17 Jun '01

Hi: I've recently noticed some discussion here on alt.roots. A topic of some interest to me. Don Stokes wishes they would go away, however i know they are here to stay. The ALT.ROOTS started as an experiment. The question was could the root be removed from DOC USG control (Department of Commerce, United States Government) and is it possible to expend namespace - and if so - what are the technical limitations. The experiment is now over. The ALT.ROOTS or expanded namespace works very well and the technical limitations to the growth of the root file are no different then the technical limitations seen at the .com zone file level. Now the ALT.ROOTS are experiencing a social experiment which seems to be working. They are co-ordinating the allocation of namespace in a reasonably open fashion. Some commercial ventures in fact now offer expanded root services. Certainly there have been some problems - but the expanded namespace is evolving at a rapid pace and i anticipate in excess of one million top level domains by next year. Much of this is due to various european ISP's who are activily co-ordinating local government resources to establish claims to namespace for specific and general purpose top level domains. I would actively encourage any ISP in NZ to participate. However - I advise some precautions when selecting a root provider or in listing your tlds on various root services. I speak from experience. I recently took control and shutdown about 80% of all root service traffic to the Open Root Server Confederation (ORSC). This affected organizations like znet.com - a large ISP in California, various University of California computer labs and sites, including the university president's office. Other affected parties included some ISP called Grasshoppernet, most of croatia (yes - i mean the country), and the Ministry of Education for the Grand Dutchy of Luxemburge. There were many others but these were the most interesting I found in my logs. My decision to shut down the roots was due mainly to bad planning on the part of the root operator. We enterted into an agreement with a Diebold Incorporated to provide arpa (network) infrastructure. During the period that Diebold used the arpas they made arrangements with the ORSC root operator to establish two roots on our networks. When our agreement expired we relocated our networks and examined them for traffic. We found alot of dns traffic for the old ORSC roots. As some of you may know - once a root is established it becomes a permanent fixture on the internet. Roots are pointed to using their internet protocol addresses. This put us in a sticky position. We were now in control of every answer to every question by every user attached to our infrastructure. As some of you may know a root service is a trusted service and the abuse of this trust can result in violation of a networks integrity. Our immediate concern was the what if question. What if a hacker who knew our sites once carried a root server - and understood the power of root - decided to break in and take over the root. They could essentially redirect traffic while capturing user password, names, addresses, credit card information - etc. etc. etc. This is a scary position to be left in and i'm sure you can all appreciate that. So as to avoid any potential liability we collapsed the root and redirected users attempting to access port 80 on any host to one web page which provided them with assistance on reconfiguring their computers or networks. So in picking a root I think it is very important to find one in which the infrastructure is captured by the root operator. This means that the IP numbers used to identify the root are stable and under the administrative control of the root operator - or secured by legal agreement. Many ALT.ROOT lack this. The ORSC has no legal obligation in place to provide service, they are not for profit, the ALTERNIC was established by a known felon and operate some of their infrastructure on @Home IP addresses, the OPENNIC is the same with network hardware addresses being outside their immediate control. So with roots operating on @Home infrastructure the possibility that an old but still active root can fall into the wrong hands is an uncomfortable probability. There is only one commercial root service - the largest of which is pacificroot and they have captured infrastructure. CINICS in france is building infrastructure for french governments and associations at various levels. So the push is on and the momentum unleashed. The only question is who do you trust when you don't have a report card on the players. And I include the USG root system in that question of trust. They have the same power to redirect users as I had when I made the decision to close down portions of the ORSC root infrastructure. And I find that power to be scarier in the hands of one government entity then i do in the hands of a nauty hacker. Those of you who want to explore alt roots can find more data at the Independent Root Operator's Network http://root-dns.org/ regards joe baptista The dot.GOD Registry, Limited The Executive Plaza, Suite 908 150 West 51st Street Tel: 1 (208) 330-4173 Manhattan Island NYC 10019 USA Fax: 1 (208) 293-9773 --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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