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Fwd: Operators and the IETF - Thank You and Next Steps
by Jamie Baddeley 02 Dec '14

02 Dec '14

of interest to folks? Brian - I saw your name mentioned in dispatches - would be keen to get your perspective as an active Kiwi IETF'er. cheers jamie ---------- Forwarded message ---------- *From: *Chris Grundemann <grundemann(a)isoc.org> *Subject: **Operators and the IETF - Thank You and Next Steps* *Date: *3 December 2014 11:14:58 am NZDT *To: *DL Deploy360 Team <deploy360(a)isoc.org> Hello! Thanks again for completing the Internet Society’s “Operators and the IETF <http:/… [View More]/www.internetsociety.org/deploy360/projects/operators-and-the-ietf/>” survey! For those of you who are interested, this message provides some follow up information. I want to make sure that you’re all aware of what we’ve done with the data we collected, what we plan to do next, and how you can get (or stay) involved should you want to. We collected, analyzed, and synthesized all of the responses collected in the first 6 months of 2014. This is currently published in an IETF Internet-Draft <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-opsawg-operators-ietfaft-opsawg-operators…> . The results were further condensed into a presentation that was given during the OpsAWG meeting at IETF 91. You can view the video <http://recordings.conf.meetecho.com/Playout/watch.jsp?recording=IETF91_OPSA…> (the Operators and the IETF bit starts at about 01:07:00) and check out the slides <http://www.slideshare.net/Deploy360/operators-ietf-ietf91> if you like. For more information on what all happened in relation to this effort during the most recent IETF meeting, check out this blog post <http://www.internetsociety.org/deploy360/blog/2014/11/operators-and-the-iet…> . As for next steps, we have a couple things in mind. Several of us are going to try to start hosting an “IETF help desk” at the major NOG/NOF meetings around the world. First up to try are NANOG 63, APRICOT 2014, and RIPE 70. This desk will have an IETF banner on it and be manned by volunteers with IETF clue. The idea is to answer folks’ questions on the spot, providing easier access to the IETF process for everyone. The helpdesk and all other future efforts to bring these two communities closer together and help ensure that operational realities inform the development of key technologies will be (at least initially) discussed on a new mailing list: http://snozzages.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/synergy I highly encourage anyone receiving this message to sign up, if you’d like to be involved in this continuing discussion. Either way, thank you for your participation thus far! Cheers, ~Chris -- Chris Grundemann Director, Deployment & Operationalization Internet Society (ISOC) [View Less]

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IPv6 troubleshooting for Residential ISP Helpdesks - a document
by Dean Pemberton 02 Dec '14

02 Dec '14

Andy just poked this under my nose. Great looking resource! They are looking for feedback if you've got any. ---------- At IPv6 WG session in London, we discussed the most recent version of the "IPv6 Troubleshooting for Residential ISP Helpdesks" document. The proposed plan of action was to reach the consensus on the technical details of the document and then publish it (as combined IPv6 WG and BCOP TF effort). This email announces the working group last call for the "IPv6 Troubleshooting … [View More]

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Cooling Pads for Juniper SRX?
by Skeeve Stevens 01 Dec '14

01 Dec '14

Hi all, I have an issue with some Juniper SRX100's overheating. I've seen them get hot before, especially placed on something similar (i.e. another SRX100)... and given warnings of overheating, but never shut down.... but this situation is different. These SRX100's are shutting down as they are reaching a core temperature of 70c as they are located in racks that are outside in the sun and on particularly hot days - around 32c-36c they overheat and turn themselves off. Some might say this is … [View More]

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Licence NZNOG video recordings
by Nick 01 Dec '14

01 Dec '14

A woefully inadequate search of the archives does not produce an answer to this, so tempting all fate, I submit a possibly list relevant query... What is the copyright licencing on the r2 recordings of NZNOG? Each page clearly displays their copyright, which is fair and makes sense, but there appears to be no distribution licence (eg Creative Commons?) Cheers, Nick -- Nick 'Zaf' Clifford

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Spots available on NZITF DDoS training next week in Wellington
by Dean Pemberton 30 Nov '14

30 Nov '14

Hi All, Wellington is going to be the centre of all things Security next week, with Kiwicon happening on the 11th and 12th. In advance of that NZITF have Krassi Tzvetanov (currently at A10 Networks previously at Cisco) visiting that week and running some training while he is here on the 10th December. We don't normally open training up to non-NZITF members, but as this is on DDoS Mitigation and some NZNOG'ers are liable to be in town anyway for Kiwicon, I thought I'd pass the info on. This … [View More]

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Re: [nznog] Letter to Network Operators 24 Nov 2014
by Ray Taylor 30 Nov '14

30 Nov '14

Dean that's a brilliant idea They should definitely be *required* to make a presentation in rotorua and have a q&a session. Ray Taylor Taylor Communications ray(a)ruralkiwi.com Ph 021-483-280 Network status 06-929-9082 Description: header_logo

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FW: Letter to Network Operators 24 Nov 2014
by Ray Taylor 29 Nov '14

29 Nov '14

I am assuming this refers to notifications about equipment changes, vendor suppliers etc? It may come as a surprise to these people but most network operators create standards and stick to them! Ray Taylor Taylor Communications <mailto:ray(a)ruralkiwi.com> ray(a)ruralkiwi.com Ph 021-483-280 Network status 06-929-9082 Description: header_logo From: TICSA [mailto:TICSA(a)ncsc.govt.nz] Sent: Monday, 24 November 2014 3:21 p.m. To: TICSA Subject: Letter to Network … [View More]

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Re: [nznog] Network for Learning APE Peering
by Peter Lambrechtsen 28 Nov '14

28 Nov '14

Let's not forget that N4L is run by Spark Digital aka Gen-I and is completely separate infrastructure from the Retail broadband stack. For all intensive purposes they are separate companies. > -------- Original message -------- > From: Tony Wicks <tony(a)wicks.co.nz> > Date: 29/11/2014 8:59 AM (GMT+12:00) > To: "'nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz'" <NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Subject: Re: [nznog] Network for Learning APE Peering > > > Yes, and it also goes to … [View More]

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Network for Learning APE Peering
by Clayton Hubbard 28 Nov '14

28 Nov '14

Hi Noggers.. Network for Learning has just completed peering with APE. If you provide services to schools in NZ and have any suboptimal routing, please contact me off-list to investigate. Thanks, *Clayton Hubbard* Senior Engineer, The Network for Learning Ltd D: 09 972 2906 | M: 022 043 0155 | W: http://www.n4l.co.nz A: Suite 306, Geyser Building, 100 Parnell Road, Parnell, Auckland 1052 P: PO Box 37118, Parnell, Auckland 1151 <http://www.n4l.co.nz> <https://twitter.com/@N4LNZ/… [View More]

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Re: [nznog] FW: Letter to Network Operators 24 Nov 2014
by Revel N 25 Nov '14

25 Nov '14

Completely agree. My interpretation of the guidance is the same (i.e. "continuing to use the exact same systems as were decided on and deployed prior to 11 May would not require a notice and replacing dead hardware with the same thing doesn't require this notice either"). As such, I'd be surprised if there had been a large number of submissions from every operator within 6 months. On 26 November 2014 at 12:00, <nznog-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> wrote: > Send NZNOG mailing list … [View More]submissions to > nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nznog-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nznog-owner(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of NZNOG digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: FW: Letter to Network Operators 24 Nov 2014 > (Alexander Neilson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 12:12:41 +1300 > From: Alexander Neilson <alexander(a)neilson.net.nz> > To: Dave Mill <dave(a)mill.net.nz> > Cc: "nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz" <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Subject: Re: [nznog] FW: Letter to Network Operators 24 Nov 2014 > Message-ID: <3B4DF5F6-1C93-4023-AE3E-D5D483D7CC0A(a)neilson.net.nz> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > What I think is missing here is where providers have a standard system > they have used with the same hardware before May 11th. > > These were decisions made beforehand, no change to deployment, or not > covered by an area of specified security interest. > > How many people on this list would have changed the manufacturer / type of > equipment used in the NOC / core network that meets the threshold in 6 > months? > > IANAL > > However from my lay reading of the guidance and exemptions continuing to > use the exact same systems as were decided on and deployed prior to 11 May > would not require a notice and replacing dead hardware with the same thing > doesn?t require this notice either. > > So I am not sure that a low number of notifications is an odd thing unless > people had major changes to their core and a short run time to make these > changes. > > Others may want to chime in with their experiences. > > Regards > Alexander > > Alexander Neilson > Neilson Productions Limited > > alexander(a)neilson.net.nz > 021 329 681 > 022 456 2326 > > > On 25/11/2014, at 11:51 am, Dave Mill <dave(a)mill.net.nz> wrote: > > > > I'm actually surprised that our GCSB overlords haven't done something > like this sooner. To me it seems pretty obvious that not all network > providers are using/following the new guidelines. And much better an email > like this one than a proper slap by the NCSC/GCSB. > > > > To explain my logic without giving too much away. > > > > We are a small ISP. We have submitted proposals under this new law. Lets > call our number of proposals X. > > > > At a technical conference recently the GCSB were able to share with us > their rough total number of proposals. That number was also reasonably > obvious from the proposal numbering system the NCSC use. Lets call this > number Y. > > > > Y wasn't that much bigger than X. I'm talking 5 or 6 times bigger from > memory. > > > > We have spent a lot of time and effort in following this new > legislation. I think its only fair that others do also (lets not debate > whether we needed the legislation here). And with the numbers talked about > so far I think its pretty clear that some organisations out there aren't > following this new legislation. > > > > At the very least (based on Ray's comments) most network operators > should be submitting at least 5 - 10 standard builds each IMHO. > > > > Cheers > > Dave > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 8:30 PM, Ray Taylor <ray(a)ruralkiwi.com <mailto: > ray(a)ruralkiwi.com>> wrote: > > I am assuming this refers to notifications about equipment changes, > vendor suppliers etc? > > > > It may come as a surprise to these people but most network operators > create standards and stick to them! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ray Taylor > > > > Taylor Communications > > > > ray(a)ruralkiwi.com <mailto:ray(a)ruralkiwi.com> > > > > > > Ph 021-483-280 > > > > Network status 06-929-9082 > > > > > > > > <image001.png> > > > > > > > > From: TICSA [mailto:TICSA(a)ncsc.govt.nz <mailto:TICSA(a)ncsc.govt.nz>] > > Sent: Monday, 24 November 2014 3:21 p.m. > > To: TICSA > > Subject: Letter to Network Operators 24 Nov 2014 > > > > > > > > Dear Network Operator > > > > > > > > Please find attached a letter to all network operators. This letter > shares our surprise at the low number of notifications received from > registered network operators to date. We want to reinforce that we are here > to support you in meeting your obligations under the TICSA. > > > > > > > > We thank those network operators who have actively engaged with us under > the TICSA since May. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kind regards > > > > From the TICSA Team > > > > > > > > > > > > This electronic message, together with any attachments, contains > information that is provided in confidence and may be subject to legal > privilege. Any classification markings must be adhered to. If you are not > the intended recipient, you must not peruse, disclose, disseminate, copy or > use the message in any way. 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