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Generating a default route
by Dylan Hall 20 Nov '14

20 Nov '14

Hi all, I'm curious what other people are doing to generate a default route. The config I'm familiar with lists a set of networks, and if any of them are present then the default route is created. Is that how everyone does it? How are people choosing the set of networks? Do you just use Google and Facebook, after all, if they're present that's pretty much the whole internet? Do you use networks that your transit supplier originates? How many networks do you rely on? If I've lost 50% of my full route table in a fault, am I better off not generating default and letting my multi-homed customers use their backup supplier? Comments welcome on and off list :) Thanks, Dylan

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Outdoor Plant Cabinet
by Alexander Neilson 20 Nov '14

20 Nov '14

Hey All We have been caught a little short on availability of our normal outside plant cabinet and I thought I might pop a call out to the list to see if anyone had advice or a spare lying around We are looking for a cabinet with front and back doors, 13RU internal 19” usable rack space (or an 18/19 RU one door rack) We need 600mm depth for the design. Does anyone have a cabinet sitting spare meeting these requirements or a company they have worked with for external cabinets who may have one in their showroom that could be mobilised or has space on a production line. We are looking for availability in 2-3 weeks so quite a tight timeframe. I can offer beer as a finders fee for successful outcome (plus we can buy a cabinet if someone has it spare at their place) *note not asking for loaner cabinets as the plan is to set in a concrete pad where the mounting pole is* Regards Alexander Alexander Neilson Neilson Productions Limited alexander(a)neilson.net.nz 021 329 681 022 456 2326

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Netflix launch in NZ (and Australia) March 2015
by Jesse Archer 18 Nov '14

18 Nov '14

https://pr.netflix.com/WebClient/getNewsSummary.do?newsId=1751 Will be interesting to see if they turn up on Megaport IX Auckland, Auckland IX or APE. *Jesse Archer* *General Manager*Full Flavour *p. *07 929 7111 *ddi*. 07 281 1391 *s*. Skype username "myfullflavour" *e*. jesse(a)fullflavour.co.nz <jesse(a)fullflavourmedia.co.nz> *w*. fullflavour.co.nz <http://t.sigopn02.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJW7t5XZs2zqjsKN…> *a. *Tauranga Business Centre, 50 Devonport Road, Tauranga *a*. PO Box 16306, Bethlehem 3176, New Zealand

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Re: [nznog] Netflix launch in NZ (and Australia) March 2015
by Jesse Archer 18 Nov '14

18 Nov '14

Netflix will supply the appliances. http://oc.nflxvideo.net/docs/OpenConnect-Deployment-Guide.pdf Expect to have 1-2Gbps between Sydney & NZ tied up each night for 10 hours filling the caches with content. *Jesse Archer* *General Manager*Full Flavour *p. *07 929 7111 *ddi*. 07 281 1391 *s*. Skype username "myfullflavour" *e*. jesse(a)fullflavour.co.nz <jesse(a)fullflavourmedia.co.nz> *w*. fullflavour.co.nz <http://t.sigopn02.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJW7t5XZs2zqjsKN…> *a. *Tauranga Business Centre, 50 Devonport Road, Tauranga *a*. PO Box 16306, Bethlehem 3176, New Zealand On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Simon Allard <Simon.Allard(a)callplus.co.nz> wrote: > Netflix does have its own CDN which they deploy in ISP networks. Looks > like the ISP supplies the hardware and they supply the software. > > > > https://openconnect.itp.netflix.com/ > > > > In the past they have never let anyone outside of the regions they service > use these. So will be interesting to see what they expect of NZ/AU ISP’s > now. > > > > Do we need to deploy CDN nodes? or will they come in with their own CDN > and peer? How will they handle non-peering ISP’s? > > > > March isn’t that far away with a big nice brownout/blackout period in the > middle. > > > > > > > > *From:* nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto: > nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] *On Behalf Of *Jesse Archer > *Sent:* Wednesday, 19 November 2014 11:56 a.m. > *To:* nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > *Subject:* [nznog] Netflix launch in NZ (and Australia) March 2015 > > > > https://pr.netflix.com/WebClient/getNewsSummary.do?newsId=1751 > > Will be interesting to see if they turn up on Megaport IX Auckland, > Auckland IX or APE. > > > > > > > *Jesse Archer * > *General Manager *Full Flavour > > *p. *07 929 7111 *ddi*. 07 281 1391 > *s*. Skype username "myfullflavour" > *e*. jesse(a)fullflavour.co.nz <jesse(a)fullflavourmedia.co.nz> > *w*. fullflavour.co.nz > <http://t.sigopn02.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJW7t5XZs2zqjsKN…> > *a. *Tauranga Business Centre, 50 Devonport Road, Tauranga > *a*. PO Box 16306, Bethlehem 3176, New Zealand > > > > Simon Allard // > Senior Network Architect > > *D:* 09 550 2790* M:* 020 100 0790* F:* > > > > www.callplus.co.nz | www.slingshot.co.nz | www.flip.co.nz | > www.orcon.net.nz > > > This message and any attachments contain privileged and confidential > information. If you > are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified > that any use, > dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. > If you have received this message in error please notify the sender > immediately via email > and then destroy this message and any attachments. > >

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New IXs in NZ - discussion
by Bevan Slattery 17 Nov '14

17 Nov '14

Hi Joe, [snip] IX Australia are the only independent Internet Exchange operator in Australasia, with 16 years experience running exchanges throughout the region. Unlike all other Internet Exchanges in the region, we are not for profit, and seek to serve our members, not our shareholders. We're already very far down the path of bringing some very interesting content providers and large NSPs online. [/snip] Interesting to see IX-Australia following Megaport lead again and it¹s great to see competition. However, a few points regarding your statement above: 1. It is a misrepresentation to say that WAIA/IX-Australia is the only independent provider of IX Services in Australasia 2. Its generally known that IX-Australia provides services to organisations that aren¹t members of WAIA/IX-Australia. which apart from a contravention of its constitution means the statement above isn¹t quite factually correct. Can you confirm WAIA only provide services to registered members under its constitution? I can think of a handful that aren¹t. 3. The constitution of WAIA only provides for WAIA/IX Australia to service Australia, so I¹m not sure whether the announcement is simply a reaction to Megaports announcement, not approved by members/amended in the constitution or part of a plan to expand (not foreshadowed at the recent AGM which would have been the time to amend the constitution?) 4. WAIA is Incorporated in WA which actually only really provides for the delivery of services in Western Australia (there is a pathway to delivering nationally through Incorporation under ASIC), but certainly is not able to provide services outside of Australia. Operation outside of Australia may lead to issues regarding WAIA¹s incorporated status. Despite some persistent rumours that IX-Australia is perhaps being taken advantage of by a particular commercial carrier to hinder Megaports success, I would like to think otherwise, but this reaction to step outside the legal operational jurisdiction makes me think there is merit to same. So ultimately, from a Network Operations perspective it would be helpful to understand whether WAIA as an Incorporated Association in Western Australia is legally able to operate outside of Australia in the first instance though (even if the Constitution allowed it which I don¹t think it does). Your clarification to the list would be helpful. Cheers [b] WAIA 2013 Constitution https://www.waia.asn.au/node/83

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Megaport Auckland
by Denver Maddux 17 Nov '14

17 Nov '14

Hi NZNOGers, First off, I’m new to the NZNOG list, but far from new to NOGs in general. I’ve recently stepped into the CEO role at Megaport and expect to be more actively engaging the community regionally as we expand the business into New Zealand, but I’ve been a long-time active member of NANOG, GPF, EPF, and APF groups. I’ve been trying to catch-up on the NZNOG list via the archives over the past couple of weeks to get some context for the community and I’m really happy to see how active the list has been as of late. Second, I wanted to just drop a note that Megaport is now live in 220 Queen St. As many of you have seen, we are partnered with Vibe in NZ, but users can also sign up directly with Megaport now in The Data Centre. This is for the full index of Megaport services, including IX, as has been heavily discussed on this list recently. We will also be expanding into Datacom Orbit Dr in the next month or so. http://www.megaport.com Feel free to email me direct if you have questions, or flames. :) Denver Maddux CEO Megaport denver.maddux(a)megaport.com<mailto:denver.maddux(a)megaport.com>

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Reminder of NZNOG list AUP
by Simon Lyall 12 Nov '14

12 Nov '14

Just a reminder to everyone that the list AUP includes: 6. Blatant product or service marketing is unacceptable. so please try not to overdo it. The full AUP is here: http://www.nznog.org/mailing-list Simon. NZNOG list co-moderator. -- Simon Lyall | Very Busy | Web: http://www.simonlyall.com/ "To stay awake all night adds a day to your life" - Stilgar

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New IXs in NZ - discussion
by Tim Hoffman 12 Nov '14

12 Nov '14

All, We’ve had some interesting announcements of Megaport and IX Australia building internet exchanges into NZ over the last week or so. I’ve been a bit surprised at how little chatter there has been around this on the list. I thought I’d put some thoughts down (as someone who has worked for a bunch of networks in NZ and is now overseas working for big content) with hope of kicking off a discussion. At a 10,000 foot view, New Zealand has had a reasonably successful operation of IXs over the last 10-15 years. All of y’all except for the two big operators openly peer. This is awesome! However, as has been discussed in other posts recently; 1/ More and more of the internet is becoming about connectivity from CDNs to users. 2/ More and more CDNs are coming to New Zealand and Australia 3/ Trans-tasman capacity isn’t hugely expensive Addressing points (1) and (2), as content comes into New Zealand, we have to remember that on a global scale, New Zealand is absolutely tiny. It’s a hard business case to get a POP there as a content provider. Content providers that do come are likely just going to put in a single location - Auckland. So while WIX may make sense for ISPs in NZ peering with each other, for the bulk of the *interesting* content on the internet that you can get through peering, you’re going to have to get it in Auckland. Networks have outages, planned works, etc. So assuming that most of NZ’s interesting content is in Auckland (with a bit more over the Tasman, which isn’t too expensive to get to these days), it makes sense to have multiple (redundantly built and managed) ways of getting at this content. It’s interesting looking at the differences between the 3 IXs we’re about to have. Citylink, who have the critical mass of all the peers, are in the most locations, and are the most expensive. They’ve also got a product set around metro ethernet, dark fibre, and have a CDN running. And they’re doing some interesting things around a “SDN driven IX”. Megaport, who have placed huge focus on their “Virtual Cross Connect” product and being able to configure this on the fly, but also have run a pretty successful IX. IX Australia, who are very IX focused, and have gone to great pains to ensure that that’s their only product, making them the most “independent”. IX Australia also have public graphs of traffic levels through their IX (i.e. for NSW-iX http://monitor.nsw.ix.asn.au/cacti/graph_image.php?action=view&local_graph_… <http://monitor.nsw.ix.asn.au/cacti/graph_image.php?action=view&local_graph_…>) - which is commendable (it would be nice to see Megaport and Citylink follow suit on this one) I suspect you’re going to find that most of the content will try to get to all 3. It’s my hope that most of the bigger ISPs try to get to all three, then the smaller ones can go to a couple, get most NZ routes reliantly over peering, and then transit the rest if it has to happen. It would be disappointing if we didn’t see the top 5-6 IXs + all the content providers on all of them. Also it’ll be important to ensure that the result isn’t just that we have 3 split IX communities, all with different content/users on them without crossover, as this would cause a huge barrier to entry to smaller players if they have to connect to all 3. For the community, having this competition is going to be a win. It won’t kill APE, which has huge critical mass, and has done a great job in it’s long history, but will ensure that all 3 IXs keep each other honest. What will be interesting to see is who turns up at which IX and how they all grow together. What’s everyone else’s thoughts? It would be interesting particularly if there is anyone from Citylink, or any of the big ISPs, who could comment on their take on these developments in the market and where they will be peering? Cheers, Hoff

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Non Commercial request for Hardware (learning kit)
by Alexander Neilson 11 Nov '14

11 Nov '14

Hey All Sorry if this is rude of me to ask and I apologise if so. Does anyone have old routers / switches / firewalls / spare parts or modules for same lying around that are still function (or slightly broken) that they are looking at flicking on or long term loaning? I am looking for any gear that would help me get greater exposure to other hardware / configurations and that can be used in my home lab. I currently have a single Cisco 2821 that was pulled from production, and a Cisco Catalyse 2900XL plus on long term loan I have two Juniper J2320’s. The 2821 has a very loud dying fan that I would like to replace (flatmates aren’t so understanding about my learning noises) and I would like to get some more experience with Cisco and other manufacturers. I do also have a copy of GNS3 that I will be trying to use more but I have always preferred to grab actual physical hardware and wire it up and play around with configs etc. I am wellington based so hardware locally would be a bonus but if its something exciting to learn I would probably try save up shipping. Also I don’t have massive space so while some hardware would be awesome to experience I will likely decline for space reasons. Thank you all in advance. Apologies for any noise on the list. Off list replies are probably best. Please note for future people seeing this in the archive, if you want to take a look / have a play any of the hardware I receive would be available for learning loan to others. Regards Alexander Alexander Neilson Neilson Productions Limited alexander(a)neilson.net.nz 021 329 681 022 456 2326

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Load balance appliances
by Jodi Thomson 11 Nov '14

11 Nov '14

Hi All Just wondering what people are using these days for dedicated load balance appliances. Last ones I had anything to do with were the Alteon Ace Directors going back 7-8 yrs so am a little out of touch with whats in use today. Cheers Jodi -- Jodi Thomson Systems & Networks Big Noise Group Ltd 501 Heretaunga Street West, Hastings 4122 Cell (021) 903712 Ph: (06) 876 9661 Fax: (06) 876 9668 Skype: jodit1 Web : http://www.bignoisegroup.com

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