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Re: [nznog] Power event in Sky tower
by Martin Spencer 23 Jun '14

23 Jun '14

Hi Everyone. I am Martin Spencer, the owner of The Data Centre at 220 Queen Street. I have been following the thread on the Auckland Peering Exchange and thought it would be useful to bring you up to date with some recent changes in my data centre. We now have two generators and have just completed construction of our own sub-station to service the whole building instead of Vector's old one. We have never had a complete power outage, though in the early days we did experience an outage on one UPS. I then had all the UPSs modified to try and ensure it wouldn't happen again. I would like to confirm that we do not charge monthly cross-connect fees. The only charge is for setting up the connection and that is based on what it costs to run the cable. Since I do not and never will supply bandwidth I am carrier neutral and have always hoped that I could encourage people to peer in my facility. If a formal peering exchange were to be set up here I would not want to be involved in the administration. I would do all I could to support and encourage it but would continue with my current philosophy of concentrating on making the physical infrastructure (aircon, power, security) as robust and reliable as possible. If one or a group of you would like to meet with me to discuss how we can improve our facilities and make them more transparent and available to you, please contact me. Martin Spencer martin(a)datacentre.co.nz +64 (9) 304-0737

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Trademe Contact
by Matthew Harrison - PrimoWireless Ltd 22 Jun '14

22 Jun '14

Can someone from Trademe make contact off list - I have some users being contacted by Trademe being asked why they are selling from overseas. Regards, Matthew Harrison The Top Dog p. 06 7566620 | e. <mailto:matthew(a)primowireless.co.nz> matthew(a)primowireless.co.nz

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Rack Space & Service
by Pete gmail 22 Jun '14

22 Jun '14

I am looking for someone in AKL and WLG to provide racking, stacking and cabling services for data centres. We need a sub 4 hour response to service calls. Feel free to contact me off list. LightSpeed Pete *Peter Macaulay* Managing Director *The Number One IT Group* PO Box 25481 St Heliers <http://maps.google.com/maps?q=PO+Box+25481%2CSt+Heliers%2CAuckland%2C1740%2…> Auckland, 1740 New Zealand *Mobile:* 64 21 488 485 *Fax:* *Email:* peter(a)no1.co.nz <mailto:peter(a)no1.co.nz> *IM:* petermacaulay (Skype) *http://nz.linkedin.com/in/petermacaulay* See who we know in common <http://www.linkedin.com/e/wwk/2680292/?hs=false&tok=1C3cGjM9hG1kY1> Want a signature like this? <http://www.linkedin.com/e/sig/2680292/?hs=false&tok=1qpDY4lIRG1kY1>

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Routing contact at GGI/Telecom
by McDonald Richards 18 Jun '14

18 Jun '14

Hello, This one is a last resort since normal channels are failing. Can somebody with routing clue at GGI/Telecom who understands how your domestic/international networks are strung together please contact me off-list via email. Macca Vocus

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Re: [nznog] Visualisation of the IXP's
by "NOC＠NGWnoc"＠ngw.co.nz 18 Jun '14

18 Jun '14

Very well done, very impressed, congrats guys. Handy tool to keep book marked too :-) -- NOC @ Next Generation Wholesale - ngw.co.nz > > > - > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [nznog] Visualisation of the IXP's > Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 17:06:21 +1200 > From: Jamie Baddeley<jamie.baddeley(a)vpc.co.nz> > To: nznog<nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > > > > Hi folks, > > > Thanks to the awesome work of Blair Harrison we now have a visualisation > of the NZIX. A very interesting thing to see and it's nice to see the > ANZAC aspect of it. > > See here: > http://nzix.net/peers.html > > We'll be working on refining the process which extracts the information > and readies it for this sort of presentation so that it will be updated > nightly. We'll let you know when that's done. > > Thanks Blair! > > Feedback welcome of course. > > Cheers > > jamie > > > > > >

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Power event in sky tower
by Alexander Neilson 16 Jun '14

16 Jun '14

Did anyone else notice a power event in sky tower in the last 15 Minutes? Regards Alexander Alexander Neilson Neilson Productions Limited alexander(a)neilson.net.nz 021 329 681 022 456 2326

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Re: [nznog] old MAC 48-bit addresses that seem to be Local not Universal
by manning 16 Jun '14

16 Jun '14

On 16June2014Monday, at 21:35, manning bill <bmanning(a)isi.edu> wrote: > thats always been true…. (that MACs are not universal and can be overwritten) > > /bill > PO Box 12317 > Marina del Rey, CA 90295 > 310.322.8102 > > On 16June2014Monday, at 20:37, Jim Cheetham <jim(a)gonzul.net> wrote: > >> I've just been writing some guidance for our internal network that will help people to use manually-allocated MAC addresses rather than hardware ones. >> >> In order to indicate that these are Locally Administered MAC addresses properly, I need to set the "second-least-significant but of the most significant byte of the address", and to make them normal Unicast addresses the last bit should be a zero; therefore the last two bits will be "10" and unless my calculator has died converting things :-) in the standard hex representation the second character must be one of 2,6,A or E ... >> >> So to double-check, I grabbed the current OUI list from IEEE http://standards.ieee.org/develop/regauth/oui/oui.txt and found 18 entries that match this pattern & therefore look like Local addresses. >> >> $ egrep -i '^ +.[26AE]-' tmp/oui.txt >> 02-07-01 (hex) RACAL-DATACOM >> 02-1C-7C (hex) PERQ SYSTEMS CORPORATION >> 02-60-86 (hex) LOGIC REPLACEMENT TECH. LTD. >> 02-60-8C (hex) 3COM CORPORATION >> 02-70-01 (hex) RACAL-DATACOM >> 02-70-B0 (hex) M/A-COM INC. COMPANIES >> 02-70-B3 (hex) DATA RECALL LTD >> 02-9D-8E (hex) CARDIAC RECORDERS INC. >> 02-AA-3C (hex) OLIVETTI TELECOMM SPA (OLTECO) >> 02-BB-01 (hex) OCTOTHORPE CORP. >> 02-C0-8C (hex) 3COM CORPORATION >> 02-CF-1C (hex) COMMUNICATION MACHINERY CORP. >> 02-E6-D3 (hex) NIXDORF COMPUTER CORPORATION >> AA-00-00 (hex) DIGITAL EQUIPMENT CORPORATION >> AA-00-01 (hex) DIGITAL EQUIPMENT CORPORATION >> AA-00-02 (hex) DIGITAL EQUIPMENT CORPORATION >> AA-00-03 (hex) DIGITAL EQUIPMENT CORPORATION >> AA-00-04 (hex) DIGITAL EQUIPMENT CORPORATION >> >> (I also found a single 'multicast' value in there, but it doesn't seem to be a problem :- >> $ egrep -i '^ +.[13579BDF]-' tmp/oui.txt >> 11-00-AA (hex) PRIVATE) >> >> Some great old historical names on that list! Are these just relics of previous allocations, or are any of these in any meaningful way "live" in the real world? >> >> -jim >> _______________________________________________ >> NZNOG mailing list >> NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >> http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog >

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old MAC 48-bit addresses that seem to be Local not Universal
by Jim Cheetham 16 Jun '14

16 Jun '14

I've just been writing some guidance for our internal network that will help people to use manually-allocated MAC addresses rather than hardware ones. In order to indicate that these are Locally Administered MAC addresses properly, I need to set the "second-least-significant but of the most significant byte of the address", and to make them normal Unicast addresses the last bit should be a zero; therefore the last two bits will be "10" and unless my calculator has died converting things :-) in the standard hex representation the second character must be one of 2,6,A or E ... So to double-check, I grabbed the current OUI list from IEEE http://standards.ieee.org/develop/regauth/oui/oui.txt and found 18 entries that match this pattern & therefore look like Local addresses. $ egrep -i '^ +.[26AE]-' tmp/oui.txt 02-07-01 (hex) RACAL-DATACOM 02-1C-7C (hex) PERQ SYSTEMS CORPORATION 02-60-86 (hex) LOGIC REPLACEMENT TECH. LTD. 02-60-8C (hex) 3COM CORPORATION 02-70-01 (hex) RACAL-DATACOM 02-70-B0 (hex) M/A-COM INC. COMPANIES 02-70-B3 (hex) DATA RECALL LTD 02-9D-8E (hex) CARDIAC RECORDERS INC. 02-AA-3C (hex) OLIVETTI TELECOMM SPA (OLTECO) 02-BB-01 (hex) OCTOTHORPE CORP. 02-C0-8C (hex) 3COM CORPORATION 02-CF-1C (hex) COMMUNICATION MACHINERY CORP. 02-E6-D3 (hex) NIXDORF COMPUTER CORPORATION AA-00-00 (hex) DIGITAL EQUIPMENT CORPORATION AA-00-01 (hex) DIGITAL EQUIPMENT CORPORATION AA-00-02 (hex) DIGITAL EQUIPMENT CORPORATION AA-00-03 (hex) DIGITAL EQUIPMENT CORPORATION AA-00-04 (hex) DIGITAL EQUIPMENT CORPORATION (I also found a single 'multicast' value in there, but it doesn't seem to be a problem :- $ egrep -i '^ +.[13579BDF]-' tmp/oui.txt 11-00-AA (hex) PRIVATE) Some great old historical names on that list! Are these just relics of previous allocations, or are any of these in any meaningful way "live" in the real world? -jim

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Re: [nznog] Power event in sky tower
by Tim Hoffman 15 Jun '14

15 Jun '14

>From memory you have to be in the location in order to request it be added. Closest I have a node where I am now days is Sydney.... --Hoff Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 15, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Dean Pemberton <dean(a)deanpemberton.com> wrote: > > Sounds like your hand up to me Hoff :) > >> On Monday, June 16, 2014, Tim Hoffman <tim(a)hoffman.net.nz> wrote: >> If someone could make some effort to get all the facilities people peer at in Auckland registered in peeringdb, this would also help! >> >> Last I looked sky was the only one in there, and I added mayoral. But getting Kingston, 220Q, and the various DCs in there too would be of great use.... >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 15, 2014, at 5:56 PM, McDonald Richards <McDonald.Richards(a)vocus.com.au> wrote: >>> >>> Using PeeringDB like the rest of the Internet would be best. You could introduce a peering track/BOF into the NZNOG conference or get a lightning talk on how to use peeringdb? >>> >>> Macca >>> >>> >>> From: Dean Pemberton <dean(a)deanpemberton.com> >>> Date: Monday, 16 June 2014 10:54 AM >>> To: Jamie Baddeley <jamie.baddeley(a)vpc.co.nz> >>> Cc: McDonald Richards <McDonald.Richards(a)vocus.com.au>, nznog <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> >>> Subject: Re: [nznog] Power event in sky tower >>> >>> Good feedback Jamie. >>> >>> Not knowing where people are is a criticism I've heard a number of times now. >>> >>> Most recently from a large content delivery network operator who went to the Peering DB and struggled to find any info on NZ ASNs. >>> >>> I think we're past people keeping their pop locations a secret. >>> Would something like a meet-me location web page, or a primer on how to use the Peering DB for the same purpose be useful to people? >>> 'Peering socials' are held at other overseas meetings and they might be a good use for some nznog conference time. >>> >>> Essentially operators get up on stage. Present a slide on where they are located and what their peering policy is. This is then followed by beer to allow deals to be made. >>> >>> Seems to me that enough people saying 220 queen at one of these events might just get some traction. >>> >>> Could even get some colo operators along. >>> >>> On Monday, June 16, 2014, Jamie Baddeley <jamie.baddeley(a)vpc.co.nz> wrote: >>> Hi Guys, >>> >>> Citylink have been in the process of refreshing it's core infrastructure over the last few months. The big nodes for us in Auckland are Kingston and 220 Queen for many of the reasons that folks have already outlined. That's not to say Sky Tower is not important to us - it's just got different (ahem) qualities. So from Citylink's perspective 220 Queen is good. The sales guys tell me there's a bit of space at Kingston too. >>> >>> Having said that we're always focussed on making the APE a distributed exchange point so in reality it shouldn't really matter where you are (inside the footprint of course). I guess you'd just need to weigh up whether being able to shop around for colocation and all of it's associated costs and the benefits that brings vs the cost of APE connectivity. Simply put we think the cost of making the wrong choice for colocation will outweigh any APE stuff. >>> >>> Others have mentioned Mayoral Drive too. Falling out of the NZNOG conference this year was a message to get APE in there. We're working on that. Because we try to keep the cost of delivery low, we're having to be a little creative - essentially allowing us to set up crossconnects from an APE switch inside the site when we've been hosted by a 3rd party. Last time I spoke to someone at Chorus about this they said it wouldn't be until October until they could get into that. >>> >>> Others have also mentioned a cost difference that is largely there for historical reasons. Citylink are actually looking at normalising the pricing across the APE to make it fairer for everyone. That's inline with our aim to have a distributed IXP so that it really doesn't matter where you are. >>> >>> It'd be neat to see a list of locations around Auckland and who is where. That'll help us to make sure the APE is where you need it to be. >>> >>> Cheers > > > -- > Regards, > > Dean >

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Re: [nznog] Power event in sky tower
by McDonald Richards 15 Jun '14

15 Jun '14

Using PeeringDB like the rest of the Internet would be best. You could introduce a peering track/BOF into the NZNOG conference or get a lightning talk on how to use peeringdb? Macca From: Dean Pemberton <dean(a)deanpemberton.com<mailto:dean(a)deanpemberton.com>> Date: Monday, 16 June 2014 10:54 AM To: Jamie Baddeley <jamie.baddeley(a)vpc.co.nz<mailto:jamie.baddeley(a)vpc.co.nz>> Cc: McDonald Richards <McDonald.Richards(a)vocus.com.au<mailto:McDonald.Richards(a)vocus.com.au>>, nznog <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz<mailto:nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz>> Subject: Re: [nznog] Power event in sky tower Good feedback Jamie. Not knowing where people are is a criticism I've heard a number of times now. Most recently from a large content delivery network operator who went to the Peering DB and struggled to find any info on NZ ASNs. I think we're past people keeping their pop locations a secret. Would something like a meet-me location web page, or a primer on how to use the Peering DB for the same purpose be useful to people? 'Peering socials' are held at other overseas meetings and they might be a good use for some nznog conference time. Essentially operators get up on stage. Present a slide on where they are located and what their peering policy is. This is then followed by beer to allow deals to be made. Seems to me that enough people saying 220 queen at one of these events might just get some traction. Could even get some colo operators along. On Monday, June 16, 2014, Jamie Baddeley <jamie.baddeley(a)vpc.co.nz<mailto:jamie.baddeley(a)vpc.co.nz>> wrote: Hi Guys, Citylink have been in the process of refreshing it's core infrastructure over the last few months. The big nodes for us in Auckland are Kingston and 220 Queen for many of the reasons that folks have already outlined. That's not to say Sky Tower is not important to us - it's just got different (ahem) qualities. So from Citylink's perspective 220 Queen is good. The sales guys tell me there's a bit of space at Kingston too. Having said that we're always focussed on making the APE a distributed exchange point so in reality it shouldn't really matter where you are (inside the footprint of course). I guess you'd just need to weigh up whether being able to shop around for colocation and all of it's associated costs and the benefits that brings vs the cost of APE connectivity. Simply put we think the cost of making the wrong choice for colocation will outweigh any APE stuff. Others have mentioned Mayoral Drive too. Falling out of the NZNOG conference this year was a message to get APE in there. We're working on that. Because we try to keep the cost of delivery low, we're having to be a little creative - essentially allowing us to set up crossconnects from an APE switch inside the site when we've been hosted by a 3rd party. Last time I spoke to someone at Chorus about this they said it wouldn't be until October until they could get into that. Others have also mentioned a cost difference that is largely there for historical reasons. Citylink are actually looking at normalising the pricing across the APE to make it fairer for everyone. That's inline with our aim to have a distributed IXP so that it really doesn't matter where you are. It'd be neat to see a list of locations around Auckland and who is where. That'll help us to make sure the APE is where you need it to be. Cheers jamie On 16 June 2014 12:08, McDonald Richards <McDonald.Richards(a)vocus.com.au<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','McDonald.Richards(a)vocus.com.au');>> wrote: I would think 220 Queen Street would be the logical one for that reason? The bar is set pretty high for entry into Mayoral Drive… Macca From: Tony Wicks <tony(a)wicks.co.nz> Date: Monday, 16 June 2014 10:05 AM To: 'Simon Allard' <Simon.Allard(a)team.orcon.net.nz> Cc: 'nznog' <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Subject: Re: [nznog] Power event in sky tower If there is going to be a realistic alternative site it needs to cater to the smaller “community cabinet” customers and have a connect via whatever method suits you attitude. Mayoral drive is the polar opposite of this. From:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Simon Allard Sent: Monday, 16 June 2014 12:00 p.m. To: nznog Subject: Re: [nznog] Power event in sky tower Mayoral Drive Exchange seems to be the other place to be, but Citylink have no POP there, which is a shame. From:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Dean Pemberton Sent: Monday, 16 June 2014 11:46 a.m. To: Joel Cc: nznog Subject: Re: [nznog] Power event in sky tower Sounds like a good suggestion. Citylink? Care to comment? And yes, everyone is there today... but if you want things to change then you do need to start a process. Whats a better place in Auckland which we could start to work towards? On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Joel <joel(a)hd.net.nz> wrote: Someone from Citylink may like to confirm what I have said. ________________________________ _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz');> http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog -- Regards, Dean

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