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Change to Telecom's email service
by Glen Eustace 14 Jul '14

14 Jul '14

We have had enquiries from several of our customers in the last couple of days regarding an email they have received from Telecom. It relates to a change in Telecom's email service that I find interesting. These customers use Telecom as their ISP, and have a mailbox on Telecom's Yahoo/Xtra service but they use their own domain when sending messages, we are their MX host and we redirect their mail to their xtra.co.nz address. Apparently from the end of September Telecom are going to prevent their customers from using their SMTP servers unless the From address on outbound email is an Xtra one (or I presume a domain that they manage). Up until now, we have always instructed customers to use the SMTP servers belonging to their ISP (i.e. the ISP providing their Internet service), that advice now goes out the window and we are going to have to work with Telecom's customers to help them setup authenticated SMTP to our servers. I am not impressed that Telecom are effectively going to break their email service (for their own customers) and are relying on others (e.g. us) to fix their customers email for them, when in my opinion, the customers email isn't currently broken. Glen.

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Re: [nznog] Change to Telecom's email service
by Peter Lambrechtsen 14 Jul '14

14 Jul '14

Anyone can opt out of port 25 blocking. It's nothing to do with static ip or not. Sent from my phone on the smartphonetwork. -------- Original message -------- From: David Mitchell <David.Mitchell(a)lanworx.co.nz> Date: 15/07/2014 9:09 PM (GMT+12:00) To: Dave Green <dave.green(a)snowline.co.nz>,nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] Change to Telecom's email service That is correct, send requires authentication. A bit of a pain for Xerox copiers that don't support authentication correctly. Also, Telecom block outbound port 25, unless you opt out, and can only opt out on a connection with a static IP. -----Original Message----- From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Dave Green Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2014 6:32 p.m. To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] Change to Telecom's email service > On 15/07/2014, at 17:43, Glen Eustace <geustace(a)godzone.net.nz> wrote: > > Here is the relevant parts of the email. NB: The customer uses their > xtra mailbox and POPs from it. But they have their From: set to the > address below. > > > OPTION 1: Keep using admin(a)customers-domain.co.nz. > [...] Doesn't send.xtra.co.nz require authentication while smtp.xtra.co.nz doesn't (but the connection must come from an Xtra subscriber)? Or something like that. If you get your free Xtra email addy and use that to auth to send.xtra.co.nz I wouldn't have thought it would matter what the From email address is. Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

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Does anyone sell upload favorable international transit in NZ?
by mcfbbqroast . 13 Jul '14

13 Jul '14

>From what I understand, most bandwidth purchased from the Southern Cross access cables is purchased in symmetrical quantities. ie 1gbps in both ways. Given that a lot of this is sold to residential ISPs with download favorable profiles, do any of them resell transit at a lower cost with a high up to down ratio (ie 1 gigabit up, 10 down or something similar)?

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Re: [nznog] Upload favourable int'l transit in NZ
by Revel N 12 Jul '14

12 Jul '14

We have recently started offering more creative int'l transit options including time-of-day based bandwidth. You're welcome to contact me off-list if you want to discuss further. Revel Nambiar Network Architect ICONZ-Webvisions 0212428154 > On 13/07/2014, at 12:00 pm, nznog-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz wrote: > > Send NZNOG mailing list submissions to > nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nznog-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nznog-owner(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of NZNOG digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Does anyone sell upload favorable international transit in > NZ? (mcfbbqroast .) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 10:29:58 +1200 > From: "mcfbbqroast ." <bbqroast(a)gmail.com> > To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: [nznog] Does anyone sell upload favorable international > transit in NZ? > Message-ID: > <CAKJkDEsBXMtQU9Tvwd1hF1S9JJGFKPZHmzujM6qHbGcAf8J1sA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >> From what I understand, most bandwidth purchased from the Southern Cross > access cables is purchased in symmetrical quantities. ie 1gbps in both ways. > > Given that a lot of this is sold to residential ISPs with download > favorable profiles, do any of them resell transit at a lower cost with a > high up to down ratio (ie 1 gigabit up, 10 down or something similar)? >

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Linux.conf.au 2015 - Call for proposals closes soon
by Simon Lyall 09 Jul '14

09 Jul '14

A reminder that the Call for Proposals for Linux.conf.au 2015 in Auckland closes in a couple of days. If you want to submit a proposal for a talk, tutorial or a Miniconf you need to do it right away. Some advice on getting your talk accepted is here: http://www.linux.conf.au/cfp/gettingyourproposal === linux.conf.au Call For Proposals === The call for proposals for linux.conf.au 2015 is now open! The conference is a meeting place for the free and open source software communities. It will be held in Auckland at the University of Auckland Business School from Monday 12 to Friday 16 January, 2015, and provides a unique opportunity for open source developers, students, users and hackers to come together, share new ideas and collaborate. === Important Dates === * Call for Proposals opens 9 June 2014 * Call for Proposals closes 13 July 2014 * Email acceptances start September 2014 * Early bird registrations open 23 September 2014 * Conference dates: Monday 12 January to Friday 16 January, 2015 === Information on Proposals === The linux.conf.au 2015 papers committee is looking for a broad range of proposals, and will consider submissions on anything from programming and software, to desktop, mobile, gaming, userspace, community, government, space, and education. There is only one rule: *Your proposal must be related to open source* This year, the papers committee is going to be focused on open source in education as well as our usual focus on deep technical content. The conference is to a large extent what the speakers make it: if we receive heaps of excellent submissions on a topic, then it's sure to be represented at the conference. Here's a few ideas to get you started: * Clouds, data centers and scalability. * Community challenges; legal threats; education and outreach. * Documentation for open source projects. * HTML5; multimedia codecs. * Kernel developments; new architectures. * Open hardware; embedded systems; wearable computing. * Security; privacy; anonymity. * Networking; Software defined networking; bufferbloat; network function virtualization. * Software development; programming languages. * Sysadmin and automation. linux.conf.au is known for presentations and tutorials that are strongly technical in nature, but proposals for presentations on other aspects of free software and open culture, such as educational and cultural applications of open source, are welcome. === Code of Conduct === linux.conf.au welcomes first-time and seasoned speakers from all free and open communities: people of all ages, genders, nationalities, ethnicities, backgrounds, religions, abilities, and walks of life. We respect and encourage diversity at our conference. By agreeing to present at or attend the conference, you are agreeing to abide by the terms and conditions (http://lca2015.linux.org.au/cor/terms_and_conditions) We also expect all speakers and delegates to have read and understood our Code of Conduct (http://lca2015.linux.org.au/cor/code_of_conduct) === Format === There are three different ways that you can present your content: * Presentations * Tutorials * Mini conferences _Presentations_ Presentations are 45 minute slots that are generally presented in lecture format. These form the bulk of the available conference slots. _Tutorials_ Tutorials are 100 minutes long, and are generally presented in a classroom format. They should be interactive or hands-on in nature. Tutorials are expected to have a specific learning outcome for attendees. _Mini conferences_ Miniconfs are one or two day long sessions on a specific topic. A separate CFP form will be used to propose and select miniconfs, and is available at http://lca2015.linux.org.au/miniconf-cfp === Speaker Information === In recognition of the value that speakers bring to our conference, once a proposal is accepted a speaker is entitled to: * Free registration, which holds all of the benefits of a Professional Delegate Ticket * Exclusive tickets to the Speakers' Dinner for the speaker and their immediate family * One free family ticket to the Partners' Programme If your proposal includes more than one speaker, these additional speakers are not entitled to free registration or to any extra benefits. linux.conf.au does not and will not pay speakers to present at the conference. linux.conf.au is able to provide limited financial assistance for some speakers, for instance, where the cost of flights or accommodation might prohibit a speaker from attending. Please note, however, that there is a limited budget for travel assistance and that asking for assistance could affect your chances of acceptance. === Recording and Licensing === To increase the number of people that can view your presentation, linux.conf.au might record your talk and make it publicly available after the event. When submitting your proposal you will be asked to release materials relating to your presentation under a Creative Commons ShareAlike License. Additionally, if you are discussing software in your presentation, you must ensure the software has an appropriate open licence. All presentation material should be suitable for people aged 12 and above. All presentations are subject to Linux Australiaâ€™s code of conduct, including that they must not contain: sexual or violent imagery exclusionary language language which is not appropriate for an all-ages audience For more information, see: http://lca2015.linux.org.au/cfp === About Linux Australia === Linux Australia is the peak body for open source communities around Australia, and as such represents approximately 3500 Free and Open Source users and developers. Linux Australia supports the organisation of this international Free Software conference in a different Australasian city each year. For more information about Linux Australia see: http://www.linux.org.au/ === Papers Enquiries === For enquiries related to this CFP, or to presentations at linux.conf.au generally, contact the linux.conf.au 2015 Papers Committee by email: papers-chair at linux.org.au -- Simon Lyall | Volunteer | Linux.conf.au 2015 conference | http://www.linux.conf.au

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Juniper MX with inline-jflow and full tables
by Ewen McNeill 09 Jul '14

09 Jul '14

Is anyone running a Juniper MX-80 type platform (MX5/10/40/80) and using inline-jflow (which runs in the TFEB) on the same router as full IPv4 BGP tables? Either with the current JTAC recommended release (12.3R6.6) or some other software release. I have a client that has been trying this, and found that moving to 12.3R6.6 and being _very_ careful about what goes into the TFEB[0] has made it _better_ than it was with previous software releases. But still not exactly rock solid, run forever. If anyone has experiences they'd be willing to share, either positive or negative, I'd be interested. Either on list or off list. (I'm happy to summarise back to the list if anything useful gets turned up.) Ewen +64-21-916-965 [0] To avoid running out of memory -- inline-jflow seems inclined to use about 1/3rd of the TFEB memory when it is turned on, and of course full v4 tables require a bunch of TFEB memory too.

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Sky Television Point of Contact
by Alexander Neilson 08 Jul '14

08 Jul '14

Can anyone from sky tv please make contact off list with me to discuss delivery of services etc? We have tried making contact through the front door and seem to be hitting black holes where nothing gets a response. Thank You Beer! Regards Alexander Alexander Neilson Neilson Productions Limited alexander(a)neilson.net.nz 021 329 681 022 456 2326

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Fwd: [apnic-talk] [Apnic-announce] Just over one week to be heard - APNIC Survey 2014
by Dean Pemberton 02 Jul '14

02 Jul '14

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Re: [nznog] POSTing problems.
by Pete Mundy 02 Jul '14

02 Jul '14

(copied back to NZNOG as it is semi-operational and others may be able to chip in) Sorry Criggie, not certain as I don't know enough about CGN to say. I had just assumed CGNs would would handle non-80/443 TCP traffic! Otherwise you can't get your lulz catz emails without webmail?! If you're ring-fenced behind http then yeah that's somewhat restrictive. For what I'm using them for (quick remote tool for 1 person), I just use SSH outbound over a high TCP port into a (free :) EC2 instance that I reactivate when needed. The TCP session is kept alive with a minimal trickle of data until I'm ready to log in over it (Pi just keeps trying periodically if server is down because EC2 instance is paused). So if they (cell carrier) only pass TCP/80 & 443 (and then probably transparently proxied & sanity-checked for HTTP compliance etc too?!), then no, I think maybe my wee boxes probably wouldn't work behind that. I do trigger a periodic 'call home with stats' poll over https as well, and that would probably get through, but the tunnel itself needs that high TCP port to operate. I did set them up for IPv6 tunnels concurrent to the v4 ones though, and that can can actually sometimes be quite useful as sometimes one can get in via v6 when one's v4 is down! I don't suppose there is any chance your cell provider does IPv6? If not then I guess tunnelling over DNS or maybe over HTTP or HTTPS might be the only option to get through that; and if they're mucking with the POSTs then maybe even that couldn't get through! Pete On 2/07/2014, at 5:42 PM, Criggie <criggie(a)criggie.org.nz> wrote: > Pete Mundy wrote, On 02/07/14 15:59: >> I find the Raspberry Pi a most excellent tool for this purpose. I config them up to call home & hold a tunnel open through the users inevitable NAT. I post one out to the end user, get them to plug it in where the fault is occurring, and then I log into it though the tunnel and do all the testing and captures remotely. Coupled with capturing tcpdumps on the server's interface itself , this gives full visibility of both ends of the connection (and hence the ability to determine if the packets are coming through uninhibited). >> > Does this work through carrier grade NAT? I have to come up with a > solution for remote access to a cellular site in Brisbane River (its on > a pontoon and has no possibility of anything but cellular) > > Problem is they get a 100.60.x.x IP address, and it can't use anything > but http/https. > > So I wonder if openvpn /tcp on port 443 will work. Have you tried this? > > -- > Criggie > > http://criggie.org.nz/

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Thoughts about IP Transit
by Skeeve Stevens 02 Jul '14

02 Jul '14

Hey all, There was a discussion recently on Ausnog about Transit, so I was inspired to make a video about some of my thoughts on the subject. I've done this video as my ISP Guy thing, and I thought I would share it as you might find it useful or interesting. It isn't meant to stir up people, but I am sure it may, especially those selling transit in a certain way. This video is more about educating people about the value of transit in certain kinds of ways. It is about 14 mins long, but I'd like to know what you thought if you have time to watch it. http://theispguy.com/thoughts-about-transit/ or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpq_jOMEmdM The pricing I mention in the video is mostly relevant to Australia and I realise pricing is somewhat different in NZ. That brings up a question... what is the pricing of transit in NZ and what ways are people selling it? Are terms 6, 12, 18, 24 months? What is the average price you are seeing? Does pricing drop much at scale? Who are the key providers of quality transit? Is there a demand for 1:1 in NZ? or is a little contention ok? Just a few questions so I can understand the NZ market a bit more and in future perhaps include that in my commentary. ...Skeeve *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd skeeve(a)eintellegonetworks.co.nz ; www.eintellegonetworks.co.nz Phone: +612 8014 7398; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; <http://twitter.com/networkceoau> linkedin.com/in/skeeve twitter.com/theispguy ; blog: www.theispguy.com The Experts Who The Experts Call Juniper - Cisco - Cloud - Consulting - IPv4 Brokering

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