Hi, Those certainly have the advantage of price ... and I think TPlink mostly seem to be ok, don't they. Cheers, Richard On 28/06/19 12:50 PM, Jean-Francois Pirus wrote:

I personally use these:

"Unmanaged" with QoS, VLAN, IGMP Snooping etc.

TPlink TL-SG108E TPlink TL-SG105E

There now three categories of switches. - Unmanaged dumb. - "Unmanaged" web/smart - Managed

On Fri, 2019-06-28 at 12:02 +1200, Richard Hector wrote:

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Hi all,

I hope this isn't too far off topic.

What's available in the way of managed switches (at least including 802.1q VLANs) at a suitable price for a small office?

The (8-port) one I bought 4 years ago, even at the time the https ui didn't work, because browsers had stopped supporting old certs or ciphers or something. I raised it with the wholesaler, who raised it with the manufacturer - no new firmware ever came out. I couldn't load my own cert onto it either.

Is there anything better around, at a reasonable price?

I'm not keen on what I understand is the cisco model either, where you have to maintain a support contract to get any updates.

Stretching even further - I don't suppose there's anything out there with fully Free (as in freedom) firmware? Does SDN give us that?

Feel free to reply off-list if you don't want to promote (or disparage) your suppliers (or self) in public :-)

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Thanks Jonathan, That's the second suggestion I've had for Edge-core (and that model in particular). I'd forgotten (if I knew) about the link with Accton - I put in quite a few Accton hubs and (ISA) NICs in the 90's. Cheers, Richard On 28/06/19 1:30 PM, Jonathan Brewer wrote:

Hi Richard,

I've had good experience with EdgeCore products, and I know a few providers in New Zealand have been using them in their networks for 10+ years now.

They have a model that looks like what you want: https://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?itemID=438092

The full description from SnapperNet indicates it has CLI too. https://www.snappernet.co.nz/product/912/edgecore-ecs2100-10t-8-port-10-100-...

Accton, EdgeCore's parent company, also manufactures Facebook's 100G datacentre switches, the IgniteNet line of mmWave radios, and probably some other OEM stuff I have no idea about.

Cheers,

Jon

On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 08:03, Richard Hector mailto:richard(a)walnut.gen.nz> wrote:

Hi all,

I hope this isn't too far off topic.

What's available in the way of managed switches (at least including 802.1q VLANs) at a suitable price for a small office?

The (8-port) one I bought 4 years ago, even at the time the https ui didn't work, because browsers had stopped supporting old certs or ciphers or something. I raised it with the wholesaler, who raised it with the manufacturer - no new firmware ever came out. I couldn't load my own cert onto it either.

Is there anything better around, at a reasonable price?

I'm not keen on what I understand is the cisco model either, where you have to maintain a support contract to get any updates.

Stretching even further - I don't suppose there's anything out there with fully Free (as in freedom) firmware? Does SDN give us that?

Feel free to reply off-list if you don't want to promote (or disparage) your suppliers (or self) in public :-)

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Whilst on topic has anyone come accross reasonably priced 802.3bz supporting switches ; aka 10G Copper with Fallback based on Media Capability? Netgear and Buffalo were the only two I found that were anywhere close to reasonably priced (1000$ odd); and then there is a long list of Wireless AX ap's that have a port of it which is not useful. On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 14:00, Joel Wirāmu Pauling wrote:

Do the edgecore do proper hybrid vlan? Aka Routing Any to Any (including untagged AKA native)?

That was a major drawback of the Routerboard range.

I'm still a big fan of anything running Openwrt mainline; and I still find that cheap j1900 /n3560 ATOM braswell based ones with x86 are far more flexible than anything commercially bundled. You can get a 4 port j1900 for 50$ and if you want to do Layer3 stuff then the 3160 version is another 100$ or so (and includes AES-NX).

Point me at something that can do Layer3 routing at 5Gbit with high PPS/small packets with encryption for that price point that doesn't come with weirdness - I have been looking for a while.

On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 13:39, Richard Hector wrote:

...

Thanks Jonathan,

That's the second suggestion I've had for Edge-core (and that model in particular).

I'd forgotten (if I knew) about the link with Accton - I put in quite a few Accton hubs and (ISA) NICs in the 90's.

Cheers, Richard

On 28/06/19 1:30 PM, Jonathan Brewer wrote:

...

Hi Richard,

I've had good experience with EdgeCore products, and I know a few providers in New Zealand have been using them in their networks for 10+ years now.

They have a model that looks like what you want: https://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?itemID=438092

The full description from SnapperNet indicates it has CLI too. https://www.snappernet.co.nz/product/912/edgecore-ecs2100-10t-8-port-10-100-...

Accton, EdgeCore's parent company, also manufactures Facebook's 100G datacentre switches, the IgniteNet line of mmWave radios, and probably some other OEM stuff I have no idea about.

Cheers,

Jon

On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 08:03, Richard Hector mailto:richard(a)walnut.gen.nz> wrote:

Hi all,

I hope this isn't too far off topic.

What's available in the way of managed switches (at least including 802.1q VLANs) at a suitable price for a small office?

The (8-port) one I bought 4 years ago, even at the time the https ui didn't work, because browsers had stopped supporting old certs or ciphers or something. I raised it with the wholesaler, who raised it with the manufacturer - no new firmware ever came out. I couldn't load my own cert onto it either.

Is there anything better around, at a reasonable price?

I'm not keen on what I understand is the cisco model either, where you have to maintain a support contract to get any updates.

Stretching even further - I don't suppose there's anything out there with fully Free (as in freedom) firmware? Does SDN give us that?

Feel free to reply off-list if you don't want to promote (or disparage) your suppliers (or self) in public :-)

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