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Re: [nznog] Cage nut tools anyone ?
by Stu Fleming 30 Sep '10

30 Sep '10

On 01/10/10 12:00, nznog-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz wrote: > Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 14:06:21 +0800 > From: Alastair Johnson<aj(a)sneep.net> > To: Ian Batterbee<ibatterb(a)gmail.com> > Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: Re: [nznog] Cage nut tools anyone ? > Message-ID:<4CA428DD.80007(a)sneep.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Rittal used to supply these, and is in Auckland. They used to come for > free with every bag of cage nuts, actually. > > I'm sure there are other places too. > Fibre installer: check lit fibre by looking down pair with remaining good eye. Rack installer: insert cage nuts with remaining good fingers.

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Google Safe Browsing Alerts for Network Administrators
by Paul McKitrick 30 Sep '10

30 Sep '10

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, I thought that this list would be interested in the following public announcement of Googles Safe Browsing Alerts for network Admins: "an experimental tool which allows Autonomous System (AS) owners to receive early notifications for malicious content found on their networks" http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2010/09/safe-browsing-alerts-for-n… Regards, Paul. Paul McKitrick (ITCP) Manager Compliance and Security Domain Name Commission Email: mcs(a)dnc.org.nz Fax: +64 4 495 2115 PO Box 11-881, Wellington, 6142 New Zealand -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMpRsjAAoJEOLRmJe5r9KusR0H/i1CoSDi4qTdhas+yfHOUpat wRA6/YQ8WiNMjpJ8bYmxm436SGkQheS4d7m4OThlgJ8LCpHebMq9mPz9ORq71K3V 63u/ZOl3lnobX1pu+sGGMRua4hOsiuKLszZFlo23/u9EFlfsLef9mcRfCd7a2yxQ H8FvHkCeuO//VFWtNxgjupksJrDcqNpv9ffEvRFYXyq9lMmRW5Aus3lJNwoqHmPY asbovYnVI6U55NSn4jDyET37WMmQ6alnmPNYtiXPF3Tfp9rb20eZaNcDRFnBqmaX /AIDcrAqh9Qv7nGpuc4prXWafPpQokzrbZ34uLNXPlkYxbZH/M/nvz4smpjYzMs= =bRaC -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Telstraclear with Google CDN node?
by Neil Ramsay 28 Sep '10

28 Sep '10

Good afternoon NZNOG, I am a TelstraClear cable customer and have been running Netalzyr <http://netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.edu/index.html> every so often to test various properties of my connection. Recently it has reported that there is a DNS anomaly for www.google.com and partner.googleadservices.com, which resolve to 203.97.30.147 and 203.97.30.149 respectively. Both of these IP addresses are within the TelstraClear block. What is interesting is that when I query the Google DNS servers directly they report the same IP addresses. Can I conclude that there is some sort of Google CDN node in the TelstraClear network? Neil Ramsay

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 28 Sep '10

28 Sep '10

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS23838 descr: advertised to AS9560 by Solarix Limited - AS23838 members: 120.136.48.0/21^21-29, 113.21.224.0/22^22-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: craig.spiers(a)solarix.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20081204 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS23838 descr: advertised to AS9560 by Solarix Networks Ltd - AS23838 members: 120.136.48.0/20^20-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: craig.spiers(a)solarix.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20100929 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 27 Sep '10

27 Sep '10

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS17746 descr: advertised to AS9560 by Orcon Internet Limited - AS17746 members: 60.234.0.0/16^16-29, 121.98.0.0/16^16-29, 143.96.0.0/16^16-29, 156.62.0.0/16^16-29, 180.189.192.0/19^19-29, 202.150.96.0/19^19-29, 202.126.192.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 219.88.128.0/20^20-29, 219.88.240.0/20^20-29, 116.193.144.0/21^21-29, 116.199.208.0/21^21-29, 120.136.0.0/21^21-29, 120.138.16.0/21^21-29, 202.36.16.0/21^21-29, 202.49.64.0/21^21-29, 210.54.56.0/21^21-29, 110.34.48.0/22^22-29, 113.21.224.0/22^22-29, 113.197.96.0/22^22-29, 202.36.24.0/22^22-29, 202.127.8.0/22^22-29, 210.54.148.0/22^22-29, 210.55.12.0/22^22-29, 202.36.230.0/23^23-29, 202.37.82.0/23^23-29, 202.175.142.0/23^23-29, 192.88.190.0/24^24-29, 192.203.216.0/24^24-29, 202.0.151.0/24^24-29, 202.12.104.0/24^24-29, 202.14.217.0/24^24-29, 202.27.8.0/24^24-29, 202.27.77.0/24^24-29, 202.36.12.0/24^24-29, 202.36.174.0/24^24-29, 202.36.198.0/24^24-29, 202.37.19.0/24^24-29, 202.37.78.0/24^24-29, 202.37.173.0/24^24-29, 202.37.179.0/24^24-29, 202.37.194.0/24^24-29, 202.46.189.0/24^24-29, 202.49.59.0/24^24-29, 202.49.140.0/24^24-29, 202.49.216.0/24^24-29, 202.49.233.0/24^24-29, 202.49.246.0/24^24-29, 202.50.164.0/24^24-29, 202.50.176.0/24^24-29, 202.50.246.0/24^24-29, 202.62.245.0/24^24-29, 202.95.250.0/24^24-29, 202.129.253.0/24^24-29, 203.30.174.0/24^24-29, 210.54.12.0/24^24-29, 210.55.8.0/24^24-29, 210.55.199.0/24^24-29, 202.27.188.128/25^25-29, 210.55.0.0/25^25-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: benny.treefoot(a)team.orcon.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20100712 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS17746 descr: advertised to AS9560 by Orcon - AS17746 members: 121.98.0.0/15^15-29, 60.234.0.0/16^16-29, 143.96.0.0/16^16-29, 156.62.0.0/16^16-29, 14.1.32.0/19^19-29, 180.189.192.0/19^19-29, 202.150.96.0/19^19-29, 202.126.192.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 219.88.128.0/20^20-29, 219.88.240.0/20^20-29, 116.193.144.0/21^21-29, 116.199.208.0/21^21-29, 120.136.0.0/21^21-29, 120.138.16.0/21^21-29, 202.36.16.0/21^21-29, 202.49.64.0/21^21-29, 210.54.56.0/21^21-29, 110.34.48.0/22^22-29, 113.21.224.0/22^22-29, 113.197.96.0/22^22-29, 202.36.24.0/22^22-29, 202.127.8.0/22^22-29, 210.54.148.0/22^22-29, 210.55.12.0/22^22-29, 202.36.230.0/23^23-29, 202.37.82.0/23^23-29, 202.175.142.0/23^23-29, 192.88.190.0/24^24-29, 192.203.216.0/24^24-29, 202.0.151.0/24^24-29, 202.12.104.0/24^24-29, 202.14.217.0/24^24-29, 202.27.8.0/24^24-29, 202.27.77.0/24^24-29, 202.36.12.0/24^24-29, 202.36.174.0/24^24-29, 202.36.198.0/24^24-29, 202.37.19.0/24^24-29, 202.37.78.0/24^24-29, 202.37.173.0/24^24-29, 202.37.179.0/24^24-29, 202.37.194.0/24^24-29, 202.46.189.0/24^24-29, 202.49.59.0/24^24-29, 202.49.140.0/24^24-29, 202.49.216.0/24^24-29, 202.49.233.0/24^24-29, 202.49.246.0/24^24-29, 202.50.164.0/24^24-29, 202.50.176.0/24^24-29, 202.50.246.0/24^24-29, 202.62.245.0/24^24-29, 202.95.250.0/24^24-29, 202.129.253.0/24^24-29, 203.30.174.0/24^24-29, 203.208.21.0/24^24-29, 210.54.12.0/24^24-29, 210.55.8.0/24^24-29, 210.55.199.0/24^24-29, 202.27.188.128/25^25-29, 210.55.0.0/25^25-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: benny.treefoot(a)team.orcon.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20100928 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 27 Sep '10

27 Sep '10

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS4826 descr: advertised to AS9560 by Vocus Communications - NO VERIFICATION NEEDED - AS4826 members: 118.92.0.0/15^15-29, 118.148.0.0/15^15-29, 27.252.0.0/16^16-29, 58.7.0.0/16^16-29, 58.28.0.0/16^16-29, 118.90.0.0/16^16-29, 121.90.0.0/16^16-29, 124.148.0.0/16^16-29, 124.169.0.0/16^16-29, 124.170.0.0/16^16-29, 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 157.128.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 166.65.0.0/16^16-29, 182.154.0.0/16^16-29, 203.59.0.0/16^16-29, 220.253.0.0/16^16-29, 14.137.0.0/17^17-29, 113.203.0.0/17^17-29, 114.198.0.0/17^17-29, 124.149.0.0/17^17-29, 124.150.0.0/17^17-29, 124.168.0.0/17^17-29, 180.181.0.0/17^17-29, 203.109.128.0/17^17-29, 210.48.0.0/17^17-29, 220.235.0.0/17^17-29, 14.137.128.0/18^18-29, 58.6.192.0/18^18-29, 112.141.0.0/18^18-29, 112.141.128.0/18^18-29, 114.129.128.0/18^18-29, 124.149.192.0/18^18-29, 124.168.128.0/18^18-29, 124.171.0.0/18^18-29, 125.209.128.0/18^18-29, 125.253.0.0/18^18-29, 180.200.128.0/18^18-29, 182.160.128.0/18^18-29, 202.72.128.0/18^18-29, 202.173.128.0/18^18-29, 203.113.192.0/18^18-29, 203.114.128.0/18^18-29, 203.118.128.0/18^18-29, 203.173.128.0/18^18-29, 203.206.0.0/18^18-29, 203.208.64.0/18^18-29, 210.15.192.0/18^18-29, 210.84.0.0/18^18-29, 210.185.0.0/18^18-29, 220.235.128.0/18^18-29, 14.137.192.0/19^19-29, 58.6.0.0/19^19-29, 58.6.64.0/19^19-29, 58.6.160.0/19^19-29, 61.245.128.0/19^19-29, 112.141.64.0/19^19-29, 112.141.192.0/19^19-29, 113.192.0.0/19^19-29, 118.127.64.0/19^19-29, 119.15.0.0/19^19-29, 119.252.0.0/19^19-29, 120.88.64.0/19^19-29, 121.79.192.0/19^19-29, 122.99.64.0/19^19-29, 123.100.128.0/19^19-29, 124.6.192.0/19^19-29, 124.149.160.0/19^19-29, 124.157.64.0/19^19-29, 124.171.192.0/19^19-29, 175.107.128.0/19^19-29, 180.189.192.0/19^19-29, 180.200.192.0/19^19-29, 180.214.64.0/19^19-29, 180.222.0.0/19^19-29, 182.48.128.0/19^19-29, 202.45.96.0/19^19-29, 202.60.64.0/19^19-29, 202.62.128.0/19^19-29, 202.171.160.0/19^19-29, 202.181.0.0/19^19-29, 203.89.64.0/19^19-29, 203.96.192.0/19^19-29, 203.124.96.0/19^19-29, 203.129.32.0/19^19-29, 203.152.96.0/19^19-29, 203.158.32.0/19^19-29, 203.173.192.0/19^19-29, 203.206.128.0/19^19-29, 203.206.224.0/19^19-29, 203.214.96.0/19^19-29, 203.217.64.0/19^19-29, 210.54.160.0/19^19-29, 220.235.192.0/19^19-29, 221.121.128.0/19^19-29, 58.6.32.0/20^20-29, 58.6.112.0/20^20-29, 58.6.144.0/20^20-29, 58.84.208.0/20^20-29, 58.84.224.0/20^20-29, 111.67.0.0/20^20-29, 111.118.160.0/20^20-29, 112.109.64.0/20^20-29, 112.141.96.0/20^20-29, 112.141.224.0/20^20-29, 113.20.0.0/20^20-29, 114.31.192.0/20^20-29, 114.111.128.0/20^20-29, 114.142.160.0/20^20-29, 115.146.64.0/20^20-29, 116.66.160.0/20^20-29, 116.199.208.0/20^20-29, 117.55.224.0/20^20-29, 118.127.16.0/20^20-29, 119.10.128.0/20^20-29, 119.47.112.0/20^20-29, 119.63.208.0/20^20-29, 119.160.224.0/20^20-29, 119.161.64.0/20^20-29, 120.138.16.0/20^20-29, 121.127.208.0/20^20-29, 121.200.32.0/20^20-29, 122.102.96.0/20^20-29, 122.200.160.0/20^20-29, 122.201.80.0/20^20-29, 122.252.0.0/20^20-29, 124.149.144.0/20^20-29, 124.155.224.0/20^20-29, 124.168.192.0/20^20-29, 124.168.240.0/20^20-29, 124.171.176.0/20^20-29, 124.171.240.0/20^20-29, 125.214.64.0/20^20-29, 125.253.96.0/20^20-29, 175.107.160.0/20^20-29, 180.235.192.0/20^20-29, 202.3.192.0/20^20-29, 202.22.160.0/20^20-29, 202.43.224.0/20^20-29, 202.46.160.0/20^20-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.55.144.0/20^20-29, 202.56.32.0/20^20-29, 202.68.80.0/20^20-29, 202.73.192.0/20^20-29, 202.78.32.0/20^20-29, 202.86.96.0/20^20-29, 202.87.16.0/20^20-29, 202.126.192.0/20^20-29, 202.129.144.0/20^20-29, 202.144.160.0/20^20-29, 202.170.160.0/20^20-29, 202.174.160.0/20^20-29, 203.17.96.0/20^20-29, 203.82.96.0/20^20-29, 203.83.192.0/20^20-29, 203.88.112.0/20^20-29, 203.96.0.0/20^20-29, 203.96.32.0/20^20-29, 203.130.160.0/20^20-29, 203.145.32.0/20^20-29, 203.149.64.0/20^20-29, 203.173.0.0/20^20-29, 203.173.224.0/20^20-29, 203.206.160.0/20^20-29, 203.206.192.0/20^20-29, 203.214.32.0/20^20-29, 203.214.80.0/20^20-29, 203.214.144.0/20^20-29, 203.217.32.0/20^20-29, 210.14.96.0/20^20-29, 210.56.32.0/20^20-29, 211.27.144.0/20^20-29, 220.235.240.0/20^20-29, 223.165.64.0/20^20-29, 27.113.240.0/21^21-29, 27.121.64.0/21^21-29, 58.6.56.0/21^21-29, 110.44.24.0/21^21-29, 111.125.160.0/21^21-29, 112.109.80.0/21^21-29, 112.140.176.0/21^21-29, 112.141.112.0/21^21-29, 112.141.240.0/21^21-29, 113.192.56.0/21^21-29, 113.212.168.0/21^21-29, 114.31.72.0/21^21-29, 114.31.96.0/21^21-29, 114.110.32.0/21^21-29, 114.111.144.0/21^21-29, 115.124.32.0/21^21-29, 115.126.128.0/21^21-29, 115.178.16.0/21^21-29, 115.178.104.0/21^21-29, 116.90.72.0/21^21-29, 116.212.64.0/21^21-29, 117.18.80.0/21^21-29, 117.104.176.0/21^21-29, 118.127.8.0/21^21-29, 119.63.200.0/21^21-29, 119.82.144.0/21^21-29, 120.89.80.0/21^21-29, 121.0.0.0/21^21-29, 121.79.224.0/21^21-29, 121.127.200.0/21^21-29, 121.200.208.0/21^21-29, 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Wellington Waterfront Wifi
by Drew Broadley 27 Sep '10

27 Sep '10

Hi there, I'm looking to provide connectivity for an 1/2 month long event during Christmas at Waitangi Park, and interested to see if we can use this system with some exclusivity. If there is anyone involved with this initiative, can you please contact me off-list as I'm not sure who/where the contact point is. Cheers, Drew

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EUBA
by Philip D'Ath 23 Sep '10

23 Sep '10

I'm hoping someone can clarify my understanding of this Telecom Wholesale product. >From the Telecom wholesale web site I can see that each customer is delivered on a separate VLAN. What I'm not sure about is the encapsulation of the data being presented form the client. At the SP end, do they then need to provide a PPP layer (so effectively the VLAN replaces L2TP), or is it delivered ready for you to process like any "standard" VLAN circuit (aka, just needs L3 configuration added)?

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Dunedin Delta Fibre Layer 2 Service
by Terry Wilson 18 Sep '10

18 Sep '10

Afternoon, We are implementing an offering from Delta over their Layer 2 Fibre network; most of you probably just use dark fibre but it's a good fit for us for some of our customers. I'm wondering what sort of equipment people are using as their physical connection to the network; we are having some issues getting some cheap and cheerful media converters to work that are connected at 100mb to a Catalyst 2960, their current thoughts are that the TX power is too high (28db measured at South Dunedin, we are Central) and we may need to look at putting an attenuator on to drop it down to the 8db they see on their other customer links. Before we go out and source an SFP to suit one of the other switches I want to get an idea of what other people are using. Thanks, Terry ##################################################################################### This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared by MailMarshal #####################################################################################

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Re: [nznog] Dunedin Delta Fibre Layer 2 Service (Terry Wilson)
by stewart＠wic.co.nz 16 Sep '10

16 Sep '10

> I'm wondering what sort of equipment people are using as their physical > connection to the network; we are having some issues getting some cheap > and cheerful media converters to work that are connected at 100mb to a > Catalyst 2960, their current thoughts are that the TX power is too high > (28db measured at South Dunedin, we are Central) and we may need to look > at putting an attenuator on to drop it down to the 8db they see on their > other customer links. Before we go out and source an SFP to suit one of > the other switches I want to get an idea of what other people are using. Ah, that explains the e-mail I had in my inbox the other day from a Delta engineer :-) For our layer 2 service, we use a Cisco LX SFP (GLC-LH-SM) straight into a Catalyst 3750 switch. That appears to work OK without attenuation (if I'm one of the other 8dB links :-)); we are about 700m from South City peering point, so distance should be around the same as to you from there. Also have a DLink DMC-810SC 1000Base-LX to 1000Base-T media convertor on one end connected to another GLC-LH-SM on the 3750 via our dark fibre pair to our upstream provider, around 4km, also works fine. I have the test results for that pair somewhere. No problems to report with either service in 2 years. Regards, Stu ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

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