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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 13 Jan '06

13 Jan '06

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: filter-set: fltr-unallocated descr: Unallocated (by IANA) IPv4 prefixes. filter: {1.0.0.0/8^+, 2.0.0.0/8^+, 5.0.0.0/8^+, 7.0.0.0/8^+, 23.0.0.0/8^+, 27.0.0.0/8^+, 31.0.0.0/8^+, 36.0.0.0/8^+, 37.0.0.0/8^+, 39.0.0.0/8^+, 42.0.0.0/8^+, 49.0.0.0/8^+, 50.0.0.0/8^+, 74.0.0.0/8^+, 75.0.0.0/8^+, 76.0.0.0/8^+, 77.0.0.0/8^+, 78.0.0.0/8^+, 79.0.0.0/8^+, 89.0.0.0/8^+, 90.0.0.0/8^+, 91.0.0.0/8^+, 92.0.0.0/8^+, 93.0.0.0/8^+, 94.0.0.0/8^+, 95.0.0.0/8^+, 96.0.0.0/8^+, 97.0.0.0/8^+, 98.0.0.0/8^+, 99.0.0.0/8^+, 100.0.0.0/8^+, 101.0.0.0/8^+, 102.0.0.0/8^+, 103.0.0.0/8^+, 104.0.0.0/8^+, 105.0.0.0/8^+, 106.0.0.0/8^+, 107.0.0.0/8^+, 108.0.0.0/8^+, 109.0.0.0/8^+, 110.0.0.0/8^+, 111.0.0.0/8^+, 112.0.0.0/8^+, 113.0.0.0/8^+, 114.0.0.0/8^+, 115.0.0.0/8^+, 116.0.0.0/8^+, 117.0.0.0/8^+, 118.0.0.0/8^+, 119.0.0.0/8^+, 120.0.0.0/8^+, 121.0.0.0/8^+, 122.0.0.0/8^+, 123.0.0.0/8^+, 173.0.0.0/8^+, 174.0.0.0/8^+, 175.0.0.0/8^+, 176.0.0.0/8^+, 177.0.0.0/8^+, 178.0.0.0/8^+, 179.0.0.0/8^+, 180.0.0.0/8^+, 181.0.0.0/8^+, 182.0.0.0/8^+, 183.0.0.0/8^+, 184.0.0.0/8^+, 185.0.0.0/8^+, 186.0.0.0/8^+, 187.0.0.0/8^+, 189.0.0.0/8^+, 190.0.0.0/8^+, 197.0.0.0/8^+, 223.0.0.0/8^+} remarks: For the complete set of bogons, please see: fltr-martians - special use and reserved prefixes. fltr-bogons - fltr-unallocated + fltr-martian. http://www.cymru.com/Documents/bogon-list.html admin-c: RTH32-ARIN tech-c: RTH32-ARIN notify: radb(a)cymru.com notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz mnt-by: MAINT-BOGON-FILTERS changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20040819 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: filter-set: fltr-unallocated descr: Unallocated (by IANA) IPv4 prefixes. filter: {1.0.0.0/8^+, 2.0.0.0/8^+, 5.0.0.0/8^+, 7.0.0.0/8^+, 23.0.0.0/8^+, 27.0.0.0/8^+, 31.0.0.0/8^+, 36.0.0.0/8^+, 37.0.0.0/8^+, 39.0.0.0/8^+, 42.0.0.0/8^+, 49.0.0.0/8^+, 50.0.0.0/8^+, 77.0.0.0/8^+, 78.0.0.0/8^+, 79.0.0.0/8^+, 92.0.0.0/8^+, 93.0.0.0/8^+, 94.0.0.0/8^+, 95.0.0.0/8^+, 96.0.0.0/8^+, 97.0.0.0/8^+, 98.0.0.0/8^+, 99.0.0.0/8^+, 100.0.0.0/8^+, 101.0.0.0/8^+, 102.0.0.0/8^+, 103.0.0.0/8^+, 104.0.0.0/8^+, 105.0.0.0/8^+, 106.0.0.0/8^+, 107.0.0.0/8^+, 108.0.0.0/8^+, 109.0.0.0/8^+, 110.0.0.0/8^+, 111.0.0.0/8^+, 112.0.0.0/8^+, 113.0.0.0/8^+, 114.0.0.0/8^+, 115.0.0.0/8^+, 116.0.0.0/8^+, 117.0.0.0/8^+, 118.0.0.0/8^+, 119.0.0.0/8^+, 120.0.0.0/8^+, 173.0.0.0/8^+, 174.0.0.0/8^+, 175.0.0.0/8^+, 176.0.0.0/8^+, 177.0.0.0/8^+, 178.0.0.0/8^+, 179.0.0.0/8^+, 180.0.0.0/8^+, 181.0.0.0/8^+, 182.0.0.0/8^+, 183.0.0.0/8^+, 184.0.0.0/8^+, 185.0.0.0/8^+, 186.0.0.0/8^+, 187.0.0.0/8^+, 197.0.0.0/8^+, 223.0.0.0/8^+} remarks: For the complete set of bogons, please see: fltr-martians - special use and reserved prefixes. fltr-bogons - fltr-unallocated + fltr-martian. http://www.cymru.com/Documents/bogon-list.html admin-c: RTH32-ARIN tech-c: RTH32-ARIN notify: radb(a)cymru.com notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz mnt-by: MAINT-BOGON-FILTERS changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20040819 changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20060113 source: NZRR

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 11 Jan '06

11 Jan '06

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS64524 descr: advertised to AS9439 by Institute of Chartered Accountants of NZ - AS64524 members: 202.27.78.0/24^24-29, 202.27.79.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: nathan.cottle(a)icanz.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20050221 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS64524 descr: advertised to AS9439 by Institute of Chartered Accountants of New Zealand - AS64524 members: 203.97.94.0/28^28-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: paul.ross(a)nzica.com mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20060112 source: NZRR

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 11 Jan '06

11 Jan '06

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS24226 descr: advertised to AS9439 by Catalyst IT - AS24226 members: 202.20.6.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.159.0/24^24-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: netadmin(a)catalyst.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20050119 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS24226 descr: advertised to AS9439 by Catalyst IT - AS24226 members: 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: routing(a)catalyst.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20060112 source: NZRR

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IANA IPv4 allocations and bogon updates: 121/8, 122/8, and 123/8
by Rob Thomas 09 Jan '06

09 Jan '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- [ Apologies to those of you who receive this note in multiple forums. ] Hi, team. The numerous Team Cymru bogon projects have been updated as of 05 JAN 2006 to reflect the following IANA allocation made on 05 JAN 2006: 121/8 Jan 06 APNIC (whois.apnic.net) 122/8 Jan 06 APNIC (whois.apnic.net) 123/8 Jan 06 APNIC (whois.apnic.net) IANA allocations change over time, so please check regularly to ensure you have the latest filters if you are not using the bogon BGP feed(s). We do announce updates to the bogon projects to sundry lists, such as the bogon-announce list. We can not stress this point strongly enough - these allocations change. If you do not adjust your filters, you will be unable to access perhaps large portions of the Internet. Worse yet, you may end up blocking access for people who transit through you. Please do not apply any filters or blocks to your network without carefully considering the ramifications of doing so. As a point of reference, the Team Cymru master Bogon Reference Page can be found here: <http://www.cymru.com/Bogons/> A quick summary of the documents and projects that have been updated include the following: HTTP The Bogon List - <http://www.cymru.com/Documents/bogon-list.html> The Text Bogon Lists - <http://www.cymru.com/Documents/bogon-bn-nonagg.txt> - <http://www.cymru.com/Documents/bogon-bn-agg.txt> Secure BIND Template - <http://www.cymru.com/Documents/secure-bind-template.html> Secure IOS Template (Cisco) - <http://www.cymru.com/Documents/secure-ios-template.html> Secure BGP Template (Cisco) - <http://www.cymru.com/Documents/secure-bgp-template.html> Secure JUNOS Template (Juniper) - <http://www.cymru.com/gillsr/documents/junos-template.htm> Secure JUNOS BGP Template (Juniper) - <http://www.cymru.com/gillsr/documents/junos-bgp-template.htm> Ingress Prefix Filter Templates, Loose and Strict (Cisco) - <ftp://ftp-eng.cisco.com/cons/isp/security/Ingress-Prefix- Filter-Templates/> Ingress Prefix Filter Template, Loose (Juniper) - <http://www.cymru.com/gillsr/documents/junos-isp-prefix- filter-loose.htm> Ingress Prefix Filter Template, Strict (Juniper) - <http://www.cymru.com/gillsr/documents/junos-isp-prefix- filter-strict.htm> BGP Bogon route-server for AUTOMATED updates of bogon filters - All bogon route-server peers have already received the appropriate BGP prefix updates. - <http://www.cymru.com/BGP/bogon-rs.html> RADb fltr-unallocated fltr-martian fltr-bogons - <http://www.cymru.com/Bogons/index.html#radb> RIPE NCC fltr-unallocated fltr-martian fltr-bogons - <http://www.cymru.com/Bogons/index.html#ripe> DNS Bogon (bogons.cymru.com) zone - <http://www.cymru.com/Bogons/index.html#dns> Monitoring Bogon prefix monitoring - <http://www.cymru.com/BGP/robbgp-bogon.html> Bogus ASN monitoring - <http://www.cymru.com/BGP/asnbogusrep.html> Please feel free to contact Team Cymru <team-cymru(a)cymru.com> with any comments, questions, or concerns. Thank you for your continued support. Thanks, Rob. - -- Rob Thomas Team Cymru http://www.cymru.com/ ASSERT(coffee != empty); -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.2 iQCVAwUBQ8MiDlkX3QAo5sgJAQEHwwP/X6Jh/sZ+j46KosfJ6H3+Wzb7sE3xXjl9 ktuNLb7Xfvo0A4PwUSv5NF5aS4Yp1C5NWZcrBDKkwIMA4WcC7DZK+qvFHeOX7EVS vzXzpw2FGCyImU1m49qNR+437vM0CNVaeFeMc+zjHnnXlsAEVVIhwQ7lz0KE+rlM G2ZKbvaQRyw= =qtQ6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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ANZ website broken?
by Blair Harrison 31 Dec '05

31 Dec '05

Hmm, Maybe someone pushed a wrong button? domain_name: anz.co.nz query_status: 210 PendingRelease domain_dateregistered: 1997-03-10T00:00:00+13:00 domain_datebilleduntil: 2006-01-01T00:00:00+13:00 domain_datelastmodified: 2005-12-31T22:01:03+13:00 domain_datecancelled: 2005-12-31T22:01:03+13:00 Oops. Internet banking still available via www.anz.com/nz at least. -Blair

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Re: [nznog] Studio Cam Update
by Webmaster 26 Dec '05

26 Dec '05

After receiving a number of requests from people viewing the Matinee Idle studio cams, I have opened up access to the 384k and 2M streams to all comers. This means that all NZ consumers can watch the high rate streams if they want to, regardless of whether their ISP peers or not. Non-peering ISPs may see a big increase in international bandwidth usage between 12:30 pm and 5 pm daily on weekdays until 20 Jan 2006. regards, Richard _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

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Streaming Event
by Ian Cogill 22 Dec '05

22 Dec '05

Hi There We will be providing live streams of the ASB Classic and Heineken Open tennis from Jan 2 - Jan 14 To ensure all New Zealanders get the best possible service we strongly recommend peering with the R2/Citylink anycast cluster at 202.7.7.90 via WIX, APE and/or PNIX. As it is the holidays we're not exctly sure how many people will be watching coverage online, so this is just a heads up. Regards Ian Cogill Systems Engineer TVNZ Interactive ===================================================================== CAUTION: This e-mail and any attachment(s) contains information that is intended to be read only by the named recipient(s). It may contain information that is confidential, proprietary or the subject of legal privilege. This information is not to be used by any other person and/or organisation. If you are not the intended recipient, please advise us immediately and delete this e-mail from your system. Do not use any information contained in it. ================================================================ For more information on the Television New Zealand Group, visit us online at http://www.tvnz.co.nz ================================================================

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Studio Cam Update
by Webmaster 22 Dec '05

22 Dec '05

The studio cams for the Matinee Idle radio show are now in operation with a jpg slide: http://www.radionz.co.nz/nr/programmes/matineeidle I have noted on the web cam page that some customers may not be able to get the high bandwidth streams due to their ISP not peering. These consumers will get a message suggesting that they use one of the lower rate streams or contact their ISP. Time for a beer now, my work is done.... regards, Richard

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 22 Dec '05

22 Dec '05

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS2687 descr: advertised to AS9439 by AT&T Global Network Services - AS2687 members: 202.46.160.0/20^20-29, 202.126.80.0/21^21-29, 202.160.112.0/21^21-29, 202.36.192.0/22^22-29, 152.158.254.0/23^23-29, 202.36.68.0/23^23-29, 202.135.48.0/23^23-29, 203.163.70.0/23^23-29, 202.12.105.0/24^24-29, 202.21.128.0/24^24-29, 202.27.160.0/24^24-29, 202.36.29.0/24^24-29, 202.36.80.0/24^24-29, 202.37.254.0/24^24-29, 202.49.144.0/24^24-29, 202.50.137.0/24^24-29, 202.135.20.0/24^24-29, 202.135.34.0/24^24-29, 202.135.38.0/24^24-29, 202.135.62.0/24^24-29, 202.135.64.0/24^24-29, 202.135.85.0/24^24-29, 202.135.107.0/24^24-29, 202.135.111.0/24^24-29, 202.135.112.0/24^24-29, 202.135.116.0/24^24-29, 202.135.142.0/24^24-29, 202.135.182.0/24^24-29, 202.135.185.0/24^24-29, 202.135.190.0/24^24-29, 202.135.192.0/24^24-29, 202.135.231.0/24^24-29, 202.135.234.0/24^24-29, 203.163.68.0/24^24-29, 203.163.86.0/24^24-29, 203.163.94.0/24^24-29, 203.163.98.0/24^24-29, 203.196.101.0/24^24-29, 203.196.119.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: david.lister(a)ap.att.com mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20051219 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS2687 descr: advertised to AS9439 by AT&T Global Network Services - AS2687 members: 202.46.160.0/20^20-29, 202.126.80.0/21^21-29, 202.160.112.0/21^21-29, 202.36.192.0/22^22-29, 152.158.254.0/23^23-29, 202.36.68.0/23^23-29, 202.135.48.0/23^23-29, 203.163.70.0/23^23-29, 202.12.105.0/24^24-29, 202.21.128.0/24^24-29, 202.27.160.0/24^24-29, 202.36.29.0/24^24-29, 202.36.80.0/24^24-29, 202.37.254.0/24^24-29, 202.49.144.0/24^24-29, 202.50.137.0/24^24-29, 202.135.20.0/24^24-29, 202.135.34.0/24^24-29, 202.135.38.0/24^24-29, 202.135.62.0/24^24-29, 202.135.64.0/24^24-29, 202.135.85.0/24^24-29, 202.135.107.0/24^24-29, 202.135.111.0/24^24-29, 202.135.112.0/24^24-29, 202.135.116.0/24^24-29, 202.135.142.0/24^24-29, 202.135.182.0/24^24-29, 202.135.185.0/24^24-29, 202.135.190.0/24^24-29, 202.135.192.0/24^24-29, 202.135.231.0/24^24-29, 202.135.234.0/24^24-29, 203.57.145.0/24^24-29, 203.163.68.0/24^24-29, 203.163.86.0/24^24-29, 203.163.94.0/24^24-29, 203.163.98.0/24^24-29, 203.196.101.0/24^24-29, 203.196.119.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: david.lister(a)ap.att.com mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20051223 source: NZRR --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS2687 descr: advertised to AS9560 by AT&T Global Network Services - AS2687 members: 202.46.160.0/20^20-29, 202.126.80.0/21^21-29, 202.160.112.0/21^21-29, 202.36.192.0/22^22-29, 152.158.254.0/23^23-29, 202.36.68.0/23^23-29, 202.135.48.0/23^23-29, 203.163.70.0/23^23-29, 202.12.105.0/24^24-29, 202.21.128.0/24^24-29, 202.27.160.0/24^24-29, 202.36.29.0/24^24-29, 202.36.80.0/24^24-29, 202.37.254.0/24^24-29, 202.49.144.0/24^24-29, 202.50.137.0/24^24-29, 202.135.20.0/24^24-29, 202.135.34.0/24^24-29, 202.135.38.0/24^24-29, 202.135.62.0/24^24-29, 202.135.64.0/24^24-29, 202.135.85.0/24^24-29, 202.135.107.0/24^24-29, 202.135.111.0/24^24-29, 202.135.112.0/24^24-29, 202.135.116.0/24^24-29, 202.135.142.0/24^24-29, 202.135.182.0/24^24-29, 202.135.185.0/24^24-29, 202.135.190.0/24^24-29, 202.135.192.0/24^24-29, 202.135.231.0/24^24-29, 202.135.234.0/24^24-29, 203.163.68.0/24^24-29, 203.163.86.0/24^24-29, 203.163.94.0/24^24-29, 203.163.98.0/24^24-29, 203.196.101.0/24^24-29, 203.196.119.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: david.lister(a)ap.att.com mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20051219 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS2687 descr: advertised to AS9560 by AT&T Global Network Services - AS2687 members: 202.46.160.0/20^20-29, 202.126.80.0/21^21-29, 202.160.112.0/21^21-29, 202.36.192.0/22^22-29, 152.158.254.0/23^23-29, 202.36.68.0/23^23-29, 202.135.48.0/23^23-29, 203.163.70.0/23^23-29, 202.12.105.0/24^24-29, 202.21.128.0/24^24-29, 202.27.160.0/24^24-29, 202.36.29.0/24^24-29, 202.36.80.0/24^24-29, 202.37.254.0/24^24-29, 202.49.144.0/24^24-29, 202.50.137.0/24^24-29, 202.135.20.0/24^24-29, 202.135.34.0/24^24-29, 202.135.38.0/24^24-29, 202.135.62.0/24^24-29, 202.135.64.0/24^24-29, 202.135.85.0/24^24-29, 202.135.107.0/24^24-29, 202.135.111.0/24^24-29, 202.135.112.0/24^24-29, 202.135.116.0/24^24-29, 202.135.142.0/24^24-29, 202.135.182.0/24^24-29, 202.135.185.0/24^24-29, 202.135.190.0/24^24-29, 202.135.192.0/24^24-29, 202.135.231.0/24^24-29, 202.135.234.0/24^24-29, 203.57.145.0/24^24-29, 203.163.68.0/24^24-29, 203.163.86.0/24^24-29, 203.163.94.0/24^24-29, 203.163.98.0/24^24-29, 203.196.101.0/24^24-29, 203.196.119.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: david.lister(a)ap.att.com mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20051223 source: NZRR

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Re: [nznog] ipv6
by Philip D'Ath 22 Dec '05

22 Dec '05

Pretty much every Cisco DSL router supports IPv6. We just need an ISP to start selling the IPv6 transit ... -----Original Message----- From: Richard Hector [mailto:richard(a)walnut.gen.nz] Sent: Thursday, 22 December 2005 2:46 p.m. To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] ipv6 On Thu, 2005-12-22 at 14:35 +1300, Matt Brown wrote: > With the introduction of UBS I'm hoping that it's going to become a > lot more common for ISPs to be able to offer IPv4/IPv6 circuits, even > if it is only on ad Ad-Hoc basis to the 'geeks' to start with. To offer it on UBS, wouldn't your DSL router have to support IPv6? Do any of them? I suppose you could use either a plain modem, or one of those ones that bridges PPPoA to PPPoE, but I've never tried setting one up. Richard _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

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