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FW: Asia Online
by Chris Woodrow 26 Oct '01

26 Oct '01

Its only fair that you make your own minds up about the spam and a copy is below. My perspective is that spam sucks, but at least we theoretically in New Zealand we have great network administrators (I do note Xtra as an exception here after previous experience) that we can have tell the users off and reduce/prevent spam. However when a network is involved, who does the telling off? Networks/Service providers by involvement in the industry should hopefully already know that spam is wrong, therefore a telling off is pointless and punishment realistically should be an option. Exactly how is the hard bit, and hopefully the press will do their part to expose these questionable StrongNet ethics. Who knows perhaps NZNOG being notified of peers who are spamming may be punishment enough in the long term, it is a very small industry. After getting six of these emails, there is no way I would deal with StrongNet in the future, however realistically I may not have in any case. But Phillip Hunt and StrongNet are now forever etched in my 'memory' of New Zealand based spammers and dodgey people. Cheers Chris Chris Woodrow Melco New Zealand > -----Original Message----- > From: phil(a)strongnet.co.nz [SMTP:phil(a)strongnet.co.nz] > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 11:54 AM > To: info(a)melco.co.nz > Cc: postmaster(a)melco.co.nz > Subject: Asia Online > > Dear Asia Online Domain Holder (melco.co.nz), > > Strongnet operates one of New Zealand's most advanced and fully automated > Domain Name and Webhosting systems. It is not our intention to send you > information that is of no interest. Please advise us at any time if you > wish to be removed from our records by replying to this message with just > "REMOVE" in the subject line. > > You may have read in the New Zealand Herald that ... "Internet service > provider Asia Online New Zealand has gone into voluntary liquidation". The > article can be found by clicking here > <http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/businessstorydisplay.cfm?storyID=22455 > 4&thesection=business&thesubsection=ebusiness&thesecondsubsection=internet > > or on the following link: > > &thesection=business&thesubsection=ebusiness&thesecondsubsection=internet< > http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/businessstorydisplay.cfm?storyID=224554 > &thesection=business&thesubsection=ebusiness&thesecondsubsection=internet> > > > According to our records, your domain name MELCO.CO.NZ is hosted at Asia > Online New Zealand. > > Strongnet is a 100% New Zealand privately owned company that has been > providing Domain Name and Hosting services since early 1998. Strongnet > operates its own network at Albany, Auckland with high speed connections > to the Internet and Uninteruptable Power. Our network is home to over 2500 > Domain Names, including many high-profile clients such as: > > * Cardlink Systems ( <http://www.cardlink.co.nz>) > > * Citroen New Zealand ( <http://www.citroen.co.nz>) > > * Regency Duty Free ( <http://www.regency.co.nz>) > > * Maurice Kain Textiles ( <http://www.mauricekain.co.nz>) > > * Software Of Excellence ( <http://www.soeidental.com>) > > * Wellington Drive Technologies ( <http://www.wdtl.com>) > > * Armstrong Corporation ( <http://www.armstrong.co.nz>) > > * Remuera Golf Club ( <http://www.remueragolfclub.com>) > > * BikeBarn ( <http://www.bikebarn.co.nz>) > > > It would be a great pleasure if we could be of any assistance to your > organisation with regard to hosting your Domain Name or Website going > forward. As an indication of pricing, access to our fully automated > website hosting packages is available from just $13.95 per month. > > If you are interested in learning more about our Domain Name and Hosting > system, please call us on 09 414 2492, or email info(a)strongnet.co.nz > <mailto:info(a)strongnet.co.nz>, or visit our website at > <http://www.strongnet.co.nz> > > Finally, thank you for your time... and we really look forward to hearing > from you soon! > > Kind regards, > Philip Hunt > Strongnet Limited > Tel: +64-9-414-2492 > Fax: +64-9-414-2960 > Email: info(a)strongnet.co.nz > Website: www.strongnet.co.nz > --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: FW: Asia Online
by Peter Mott 26 Oct '01

26 Oct '01

>At 27/10/2001 11:17, you wrote: >> > Strongnet operates one of New Zealand's most advanced and fully automated >> > Domain Name and Webhosting systems. > >And appears to be a customer of orcon.net.nz whose terms contain published at > >http://www.orcon.net.nz/support/terms/termsandconditions.html > >contain: > >"Users are not permitted to send multiple unsolicited email (Spam) to >single or multiple users including, but not limited to, advertising email." > >"Any failure to obey these rules or if a specific complaint has been made >from any person or company about your activities we will investigate (in >conjunction with the police if necessary). We will then make a decision as >to the severity of your actions. This may result in a warning. If we >consider the breach to be sufficiently serious (at our discretion) you >agree that we may disconnect your services immediately without notice or >liability to you." > >This email is a specific complaint in regard to the bulk UCE sent by >strongnet to .nz registrants who are currently customers of Asia On-line. > >I believe the severity of the action demands immediate >disconnection. There is no way an ISP can reasonably claim ignorance in >such matters. > >Other internet providers who endorse this complaint and recommended >action, please wave your hand. > > > >Peter Mott >Chief Enthusiast >2DAY INTERNET LIMITED >-/- > >2day.com - The professional choice for automated web hosting services >--------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Asia Online and Spammers
by Mark Foster 26 Oct '01

26 Oct '01

Thank you Juha, got it in one. :) At 10:26 27/10/2001 +1300, Juha Saarinen wrote: >On Fri, 26 Oct 2001, Joe Abley wrote: > > > What is "one of our group"? > >The nasty buncha spammers that hang out in NZNOG, of course. > >-- > > > > >Regards, > > >Juha > >--------- >To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >where the body of your message reads: >unsubscribe nznog --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Shouldn't ICONZ/Asia Online put something on its Web site...?
by Juha Saarinen 26 Oct '01

26 Oct '01

I'm sure customers would appreciate that. -- Juha Saarinen --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Whats Happened to Asiaonline (Ref: from Aardvark)
by Craig Whitmore 26 Oct '01

26 Oct '01

Hi.. I just saw something on Aardvark (http://www.aardvark.co.nz) about AsiaOnline. Is this true, or just a unfounded rumour? Thanks Craig Whitmore --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Asia On-Line Spamming
by Roger De Salis 26 Oct '01

26 Oct '01

I've seen the list, and response from Steve Phillips asking for time. I've received a copy of the SPAM in question. There is an accusation made that Domainz data was used to generate the SPAM. Freely available zone-xfers were turned off several months ago, so it is possible that an out of date zone-xfer could have been used. I have no idea beyond this what/how/why. There is no policy on this, other than the generic - "thou shalt not SPAM". It might be useful therefore that the industry generates it's own policy on this. What is a suitable penalty? An example of what could be easily implemented would be a modest delay to registration change overs. ================================================================== Recent SPAMMING of the entire .NZ by the Melbourne Company ING with the suggestion that failure to act would not permit pre-registration of .info and .biz resulted in the suspension of ability to do DNS changes. That company remains suspended until a meaningful "I'm Sorry" is forthcoming, at their expense. ================================================================= Two points. An "I'm Sorry" wouldn't go amiss. You know who you are. A thoughtful discouse would be useful about how transgressors may have their rights limited for a period of time, so as to encourage the correct behaviour would be something we would be happy to help create. Rgds Roger -- \_ Roger De Salis rdesalis(a)cisco.com </' Cisco Systems NZ Ltd +64 25 481 452 /) L8, ASB Tower, 2 Hunter St +64 4 496 9003 (/ Wellington, New Zealand roger(a)desalis.gen.nz ` In October 2001, the 5th most important product line by value for Cisco is - the telephone. Cisco 79x0 IP telephones. --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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prefix list change
by Richard Haakma 24 Oct '01

24 Oct '01

Hi. Would those who peer with KCCS note that there is a change to KCCS' networks. Network 202.37.78.0/24 is not advertised by KCCS any more. An amended prefix list is below. Regards, RH. ip prefix-list KCCS-nets description KC Computer Services noc(a)kc.net.nz ip prefix-list KCCS-nets seq 5 permit 202.14.82.0/24 ip prefix-list KCCS-nets seq 10 permit 202.14.102.0/24 ip prefix-list KCCS-nets seq 15 permit 202.20.65.0/24 ip prefix-list KCCS-nets seq 20 permit 202.20.92.0/24 ip prefix-list KCCS-nets seq 25 permit 202.21.157.0/24 ip prefix-list KCCS-nets seq 30 permit 202.27.83.0/24 ip prefix-list KCCS-nets seq 35 permit 202.27.192.0/21 ip prefix-list KCCS-nets seq 40 permit 202.27.200.0/22 ip prefix-list KCCS-nets seq 45 permit 202.27.209.0/24 ip prefix-list KCCS-nets seq 50 permit 202.27.210.0/24 ip prefix-list KCCS-nets seq 55 permit 202.27.211.0/24 ip prefix-list KCCS-nets seq 60 permit 202.27.212.0/22 ip prefix-list KCCS-nets seq 70 permit 202.27.216.0/22 le 24 ip prefix-list KCCS-nets seq 75 permit 202.27.222.0/24 ip prefix-list KCCS-nets seq 80 permit 202.27.236.0/24 ip prefix-list KCCS-nets seq 85 permit 202.27.247.0/24 ip prefix-list KCCS-nets seq 90 permit 202.27.251.0/24 ip prefix-list KCCS-nets seq 95 permit 202.36.43.0/24 ip prefix-list KCCS-nets seq 100 permit 202.36.75.0/24 ip prefix-list KCCS-nets seq 105 permit 202.36.154.0/24 ip prefix-list KCCS-nets seq 110 permit 202.37.70.0/24 ip prefix-list KCCS-nets seq 115 permit 202.37.71.0/24 ip prefix-list KCCS-nets seq 120 permit 202.37.75.0/24 ip prefix-list KCCS-nets seq 125 permit 202.37.117.0/24 ip prefix-list KCCS-nets seq 130 permit 202.37.118.0/24 ip prefix-list KCCS-nets seq 135 permit 202.37.168.0/24 ip prefix-list KCCS-nets seq 140 permit 202.49.141.0/24 ip prefix-list KCCS-nets seq 145 permit 202.49.183.0/24 ip prefix-list KCCS-nets seq 150 permit 202.49.189.0/24 ip prefix-list KCCS-nets seq 155 permit 202.49.233.0/24 ip prefix-list KCCS-nets seq 160 permit 202.50.95.0/24 ip prefix-list KCCS-nets seq 165 permit 202.50.164.0/24 --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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DS3 problem
by PER-LIM-Cabanillas, Jose 23 Oct '01

23 Oct '01

Hi, I'am writing from Perú, here we have a Nortel Passport 7400 with a 3 ports DS3 card. we are recently connected to other Passport in USA through Global Crossing (GC) SDH network. between the GC ADM and our Passport (ATM Switch) we have 50 meters of coaxial cable with BNC connectors. We checked the cable, its OK. the problem is that in the DS3 statistics, we have PathCodeViolations. we have this config used from USA to others places so we don´t know what is the problems (maybe the SDH network?). If the problem is in the SDH how can I detect it ?. I can find information about DS3 and PathCodeViolations. I'll be appreciate any information or relative link Thanks --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re:
by Adrian Smith 22 Oct '01

22 Oct '01

Thanks for all your replies. It is now working ok, with and without the dot at the end, thanks. Looks like the problem has cleared now. The reason I asked the original question is that the icq client failed instantly to connect. Usually it sits there for a while and then times out if the icq network is temporarily unreachable. Adrian >>> "Phil Groom" <pgroom(a)tasmail.com> 10/23/01 11:06 >>> G'day Adrian, nslookup will append the "default" domain name to the given host if the given host does not contain a trailing "." Perhaps that is what you are seeing when you set debug. I assume that you do not see strangness when debug is off (I don't). Phill. -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Smith [SMTP:Adrian.Smith(a)natlib.govt.nz] Sent: Tuesday, 23 October 2001 8:50 am To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: strange results from nslookup of icq.mirabilis.com Can anyone tell me why nslookup is adding my domain name on to an nslookup of icq.mirabilis.com ... and then trying to do a lookup on that ? -- www.tasmail.com --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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strange results from nslookup of icq.mirabilis.com
by Adrian Smith 22 Oct '01

22 Oct '01

Can anyone tell me why nslookup is adding my domain name on to an nslookup of icq.mirabilis.com ... and then trying to do a lookup on that ? Is it because mirabilis.com are not returning any nameserver records in the authority records ? planet:~$ nslookup Default Server: planet.natlib.govt.nz Address: 192.122.171.130 > set debug > icq.mirabilis.com Server: planet.natlib.govt.nz Address: 192.122.171.130 ;; res_nmkquery(QUERY, icq.mirabilis.com, IN, A) ------------ Got answer: HEADER: opcode = QUERY, id = 63705, rcode = NXDOMAIN header flags: response, auth. answer, want recursion, recursion avail. questions = 1, answers = 1, authority records = 1, additional = 0 QUESTIONS: icq.mirabilis.com, type = A, class = IN ANSWERS: -> icq.mirabilis.com canonical name = icq.fes.mirabilis.com ttl = 600 (10M) AUTHORITY RECORDS: -> mirabilis.com ttl = 600 (10M) origin = dns-01.icq.net mail addr = hostmaster.icq.net serial = 2001101601 refresh = 600 (10M) retry = 300 (5M) expire = 604800 (1W) minimum ttl = 600 (10M) ------------ ;; res_nmkquery(QUERY, icq.mirabilis.com.natlib.govt.nz, IN, A) ------------ Got answer: HEADER: opcode = QUERY, id = 63706, rcode = NXDOMAIN header flags: response, auth. answer, want recursion, recursion avail. questions = 1, answers = 0, authority records = 1, additional = 0 QUESTIONS: icq.mirabilis.com.natlib.govt.nz, type = A, class = IN AUTHORITY RECORDS: -> natlib.govt.nz ttl = 86400 (1D) origin = dns1.natlib.govt.nz mail addr = networks.natlib.govt.nz serial = 2001102309 refresh = 3600 (1H) retry = 1200 (20M) expire = 1728000 (1728000) minimum ttl = 86400 (1D) ------------ *** planet.natlib.govt.nz can't find icq.mirabilis.com: Non-existent host/domain > At first I thought it was a problem with our dns, but I have repeated the same query from other NZ sites nameservers and seem to be getting similar results. Are any other NZ ISP's or nznog people seeing a similar problem? Thanks Adrian Smith --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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