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The weakest link
by Michael Newbery 17 Oct '01

17 Oct '01

I'm trying to identify throughput speeds of typical low (and not so low) end network devices. With carrier networks that outperform many people's infrastructure, I'd like to have some sort of a list that says Cisco 1605R <p Mbps Cisco 2600 <q Mbps Win95/98 <y Mbps TCP WinME/2K <z Mbps TCP Any pointers to where such info might be found? Real-world is what I'd prefer. We hit this even with the cable modems where 2Mbps was faster than many PCs could make use of (three years ago). It's got worse. We can put Smartbits testers on links during commissioning, but that's not really helpful to the customers, who want at least some reasonable pointer as to why going from 64kbps to 1Gbps isn't giving them the throughput they expected. I thought I'd start with Scott Bradner's old Harvard tests, but I can't find them anymore. -- Michael Newbery Technical Specialist TelstraSaturn Limited Tel: +64-4-939 5102 Mobile: +64-29-939 5102 Fax: +64-4-922 8401 --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Hot Cisco stuff
by Juha Saarinen 17 Oct '01

17 Oct '01

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/5/22271.html Thought it would interest nznoggers, as I gather quite a few have the 827. -- Juha Saarinen --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Slow Browsing
by David Sadgrove 17 Oct '01

17 Oct '01

Is anyone else getting extremely slow international browsing and strange trace routes? e.g. root(a)ns1 /root]# traceroute www.hotmail.com traceroute: Warning: www.hotmail.com has multiple addresses; using 64.4.44.7 traceroute to www.hotmail.com (64.4.44.7), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 atm.gw.onthenet.net.nz (210.55.215.254) 1.155 ms 0.457 ms 0.458 ms 2 a10-0-0-12.akbr1.global-gateway.net.nz (202.50.119.13) 13.557 ms 11.289 ms 12.975 ms 3 g2-0-3.akbr2.global-gateway.net.nz (202.50.116.169) 7.751 ms 21.443 ms 3.048 ms 4 p0-1-0.tkbr1.global-gateway.net.nz (202.50.116.162) 92.233 ms 15.704 ms 3.839 ms 5 ATM8-0-0-8.sb2.optus.net.au (202.139.128.97) 124.659 ms 117.207 ms * 6 * * * 7 bcr2-sonet6-1-0-0.Sydney.cw.net (166.63.225.165) 240.041 ms * * 8 * * * 9 * * bpr1-loopback.Paloaltopaix.cw.net (208.172.146.18) 245.538 ms 10 * * microsoft-hotmail.Paloaltopaix.cw.net (206.24.241.42) 260.042 ms 11 * * * 12 law2-gsr-a-pos-9-0.hotmail.com (64.4.63.125) 255.464 ms * 269.320 ms 13 * pos7-0-law7-gsr-a.ca.hotmail.net (64.4.63.86) 258.509 ms * 14 * * 64.4.63.12 (64.4.63.12) 264.160 ms 15 * * p1-1.akbr2.global-gateway.net.nz (202.50.116.161) 35.157 ms 16 * * * 17 p1-1.akbr2.global-gateway.net.nz (202.50.116.161) 1040.668 ms 1183.970 ms 1312.487 ms 18 * * * 19 p1-1.akbr2.global-gateway.net.nz (202.50.116.161) 4558.104 ms * 4771.710 ms 20 * * * 21 * * * Regards Dave Sadgrove Internet Technology Specialist Radionet Limited support(a)radionet.co.nz Telephone +64 9 414 0300 Facsimile +64 9 414 0999 --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: Slow Browsing
by David Sadgrove 17 Oct '01

17 Oct '01

Yup - In was fine - but out was most strange. It appears to have come mostly right now as Netgate have repaired whatever was broken. International is ramping up again and the trace routes have sorted themselves out to most sites. regards dave -----Original Message----- From: Dean Pemberton [mailto:dean(a)flatnet.gen.nz] Sent: Thursday, 18 October 2001 12:07 To: David Sadgrove Cc: Nznog (E-mail) Subject: Re: Slow Browsing Looks ok in reverse dean(a)cyrus:~$ /usr/sbin/traceroute 210.55.215.254 traceroute to 210.55.215.254 (210.55.215.254), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 208.184.165.main1.above.net (208.184.165.194) 0.230 ms 0.195 ms 0.159 ms 2 core5-main1colo6-oc12.sjc2.above.net (208.185.156.81) 0.404 ms 0.238 ms 0.207 ms 3 core3-core5-oc48.sjc2.above.net (208.185.156.65) 0.280 ms 0.257 ms 0.212 ms 4 pao1-sjc2-oc48.pao1.above.net (208.184.233.142) 1.013 ms 0.968 ms 0.926 ms 5 netgate-customer.pao.above.net (208.185.203.133) 1.348 ms 1.219 ms 1.473 ms 6 g2-0-2.pabr2.netgate.net.nz (202.50.245.19) 1.390 ms 1.826 ms 1.440 ms 7 p4-0.akbr2.global-gateway.net.nz (202.50.116.177) 134.196 ms 134.490 ms 134.289 ms 8 f2-0-1.akbr1.global-gateway.net.nz (202.50.116.170) 134.481 ms 134.765 ms 135.138 ms 9 radionet-int.akbr1.global-gateway.net.nz (202.50.119.14) 252.458 ms * 226.066 ms On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 12:05:47PM +1300, David Sadgrove wrote: > Is anyone else getting extremely slow international browsing and strange > trace routes? > > e.g. > root(a)ns1 /root]# traceroute www.hotmail.com > traceroute: Warning: www.hotmail.com has multiple addresses; using 64.4.44.7 > traceroute to www.hotmail.com (64.4.44.7), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets > 1 atm.gw.onthenet.net.nz (210.55.215.254) 1.155 ms 0.457 ms 0.458 ms > 2 a10-0-0-12.akbr1.global-gateway.net.nz (202.50.119.13) 13.557 ms > 11.289 ms 12.975 ms > 3 g2-0-3.akbr2.global-gateway.net.nz (202.50.116.169) 7.751 ms 21.443 ms > 3.048 ms > 4 p0-1-0.tkbr1.global-gateway.net.nz (202.50.116.162) 92.233 ms 15.704 > ms 3.839 ms > 5 ATM8-0-0-8.sb2.optus.net.au (202.139.128.97) 124.659 ms 117.207 ms * > 6 * * * > 7 bcr2-sonet6-1-0-0.Sydney.cw.net (166.63.225.165) 240.041 ms * * > 8 * * * > 9 * * bpr1-loopback.Paloaltopaix.cw.net (208.172.146.18) 245.538 ms > 10 * * microsoft-hotmail.Paloaltopaix.cw.net (206.24.241.42) 260.042 ms > 11 * * * > 12 law2-gsr-a-pos-9-0.hotmail.com (64.4.63.125) 255.464 ms * 269.320 ms > 13 * pos7-0-law7-gsr-a.ca.hotmail.net (64.4.63.86) 258.509 ms * > 14 * * 64.4.63.12 (64.4.63.12) 264.160 ms > 15 * * p1-1.akbr2.global-gateway.net.nz (202.50.116.161) 35.157 ms > 16 * * * > 17 p1-1.akbr2.global-gateway.net.nz (202.50.116.161) 1040.668 ms 1183.970 > ms 1312.487 ms > 18 * * * > 19 p1-1.akbr2.global-gateway.net.nz (202.50.116.161) 4558.104 ms * > 4771.710 ms > 20 * * * > 21 * * * > > Regards > Dave Sadgrove > Internet Technology Specialist > Radionet Limited > support(a)radionet.co.nz > Telephone +64 9 414 0300 Facsimile +64 9 414 0999 > > --------- > To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > where the body of your message reads: > unsubscribe nznog --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Actrix
by Mark Foster 17 Oct '01

17 Oct '01

Actrix dropped off the face of APE last night some time - appear to still be non routable via APE although connections outside of APE appear OK. Anyone know whats up ? Outage is over 18 hours now at my estimate... Mark. traceroute to 203.96.22.1 (203.96.22.1), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 minotaur.quicksilver.co.nz (202.89.130.3) 0.235 ms 0.164 ms 0.158 ms 2 qsi1.ape.net.nz (192.203.154.28) 0.806 ms 0.540 ms 0.885 ms 3 clix1.ape.net.nz (192.203.154.8) 47.498 ms 1.832 ms 1.507 ms 4 203.97.10.38 (203.97.10.38) 1.409 ms 1.508 ms 2.63 ms 5 dts.cust.tranzpeer.net (202.180.81.66) 3.947 ms 6.40 ms 4.493 ms 6 202.180.81.1 (202.180.81.1) 4.451 ms 3.658 ms 6.702 ms 7 actrix.ape.net.nz (192.203.154.16) 72.797 ms 76.455 ms 65.769 ms 8 * * --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Xtra not accepting abuse emails???
by Lin Nah 17 Oct '01

17 Oct '01

Just read today's aardvark. I must admit I haven't had any reason recently to report abuse to xtra. Bruce reports: "Attempts to send reports to abuse(a)xtra.co.nz or security(a)xtra.co.nz now produce an automated response that says, in part: Xtra has automated the procedures for reporting allegations of abuse and security breaches involving our network or customers. From 14 August 2001, we no longer accept complaints via email. Please complete the appropriate web forms at <URL supplied>" So is that true? Lin --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: Xmas outing
by Juha Saarinen 17 Oct '01

17 Oct '01

On Thu, 18 Oct 2001, Gordon Smith wrote: > Isn't IDG going to take us all out somewhere nice? > > After all, the stuff we do gives them something to write about... :-) And if IDG didn't write about the things you do, you might have a lot less to do, if you see what I mean. ;-) -- Regards, Juha --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Xmas outing
by Dean Pemberton 17 Oct '01

17 Oct '01

So did anyone have any idea (other than bartab at a bar) which needed to be considered by the group at large? Dean --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Hot Cisco stuff + Various
by Donald Neal 16 Oct '01

16 Oct '01

>>> "Roger De Salis" <rdesalis(a)cisco.com> 10/17/01 01:17 >>> >Any interest in an NZNOG Xmas party in Auckland and Wellington >sponsored by a well known network vendor? >R I'd be interested. Perhaps a barbecue, if there are enough spare 827's ... - Donald Neal -- Donald Neal Mobility & Calling Platforms Network Delivery Telecom New Zealand Ltd --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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bigben.clix.net.nz and other NTP time sources
by Ben Martel 14 Oct '01

14 Oct '01

Hi all, Just to clarify a few things about bigben.clix.net.nz (which btw is a Truetime NTS90 - http://www.truetime.com/). Where is it located? On top of the CLEAR building in Takapuna, Auckland. Who operates it? The CLEAR Net Team What is the time reference? GPS Is it publicly available? Yes, in that there are no filters on it stating who can use it - but it is not designed to handle thousands of clients. This device was offered to people in NZNOG as a reference stratum 1 clock source. I suppose this meant that we expected other ISPs to sync their stratum 2 servers using it, if they wished and according to NTP ettiquite would get their user bases to sync of these stratum 2 servers. It seems to work just fine if used this way. Does that help....? ~ben =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~ Ben Martel Ph: +64 9 9124067 CLEAR Net Development Fax:+64 9 9125008 Mob:+64 21 541202 =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~ --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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