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RE: Internet Surveillance
by Sid Jones 12 Nov '00

12 Nov '00

At 21:53 12/11/2000 +0000, Jeremy Clyma wrote: >BTW isn't it time for a NZNOG pissu^H^H^H meeting again soon? Wellington or Auckland? -- Sid --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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FW: Internet Surveillance
by Tony Wicks 12 Nov '00

12 Nov '00

Actually, what I meant is that if there proves to be a significant number of complaints then Asia Online / Vodaphone management will need to take another look at the policy ( not me ! ). -----Original Message----- From: Joe Abley [mailto:jabley(a)automagic.org] Sent: Monday, 13 November 2000 10:13 a.m. To: Jeremy Clyma Cc: Tony Wicks Subject: Re: Internet Surveillance On Sun, Nov 12, 2000 at 08:41:09PM +0000, Jeremy Clyma wrote: > No, its not only a problem if you run an open relay.... > > Certain individuals provide lists of badly secured smtp servers which I > can just see a prepaid spammer for hire, abusing to their hearts content. Ah, but as Tony pointed out, you can always complain to the asia online helpdesk. "I'm sorry, we have no idea who that user is, so I guess they might well do it again. Yes, that does suck. Goodbye, thanks for calling." :) --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Further to Australian Domain Name allocation policies and CER
by Frank March 09 Nov '00

09 Nov '00

An obvious follow up question winged my way within minutes of my post on acquisition of a domain name in the .com.au space: how does one acquire an ABN? Basically you need to fill in a form (AFAIK online registration is not possible, roll on e-Govt :-). Buckets of forms are held by TradeNZ and the contact is David Robertson, (04) 496 6414. I am informed that the forms may raise some questions as they are intended for Australians (for example, the form asks for Australian addresses but apparently NZ addresses will do just as well). The Manufacturers' Association and the Export Institute of NZ also have copies of the forms. Further information may be found at the MFAT Australian Division pages at http://www.mft.govt.nz/foreign/regions/australia.html Good hunting. Frank March Specialist Advisor, IT Policy Group Ministry of Economic Development, PO Box 1473, Wellington, NZ Ph: (+64 4) 474 2908; Fax: (+64 4) 471 2658 --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Australian Domain Name allocation policies and CER
by Frank March 09 Nov '00

09 Nov '00

Not a technical issue but one which will nevertheless be of interest to subscribers to this list. At the July summit held by ISOCNZ to discuss issues relating to ICANN and DNS policies, a member raised a question about the apparent lack of reciprococity between Australian DN allocation policies and those of NZ and whether this was an issue which should be dealt with under the CER arrangements. Because there is no restriction on who may register in .co.nz, any Australian firm wanting to e-trade in NZ using an apparently indigenous address can do so. But, because registration in .com.au is restricted to Australian firms, NZ firms wishing to trade in Australia using an apparently Australian indigenous address may be disadvantaged. We (MED) raised this as an issue in the context of the biennial review of CER arrangements but it was somehow sidelined. We have finally got an answer to the question. While this has been a problem in the past, New Zealand firms are now able to acquire an Australian Business Number (ABN) for GST registration purposes. The converse has long been true: Australian firms can register in NZ for GST and thus acquire a NZ GST number. I have received confirmation today from Jan Webster, Manager, Policy Implementation, Internet Names WorldWide, a division of Melbourne IT Ltd, that any firm with an ABN qualifies for registration in the .com.au space. They also accept applications from foreign companies which have an ARBN and are therefore registered to trade in Australia. In both cases there are other non-residency requirements that need to be met as well, of course. You may wish to pass this information on to anyone with an interest in this area. Frank March Specialist Advisor, IT Policy Group Ministry of Economic Development, PO Box 1473, Wellington, NZ Ph: (+64 4) 474 2908; Fax: (+64 4) 471 2658 --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: IHUG MX records
by Tech Support 07 Nov '00

07 Nov '00

For Netlink/Telstra try us on 04 922 8499 or (preferably) tech(a)tsnz.net FWIW I'm sure our phone system would cut you off waaaaay before 1/2 an hour ;) If Gary or myself can't help, we can usually find the person who can, and (as long as you say who you are and where you are from) we won't ask for account numbers. Peter Mott wrote: <snip> But many of the problems we experience are at another layer, dns mail web etc. None of us here have the time or enthusiasm to wait for the standard 1/2 hour so so to get an answer on a help desk and then try to get the person to stop demanding our ISP account number and what version of windows we are running. Maybe each ISP needs to appoint a technical advocate that can be the contact point for other ISP's. The advocate can then run around with some internal knowledge and find the person responsible for solving the problem, whilst making sure the issue gets resolved. <snip> Cheers, Peter Gray Telstra Saturn Tech Support E-mail: tech(a)tsnz.net Phone: 0800 949 000 Fax: 04 922 8401 Website: www.netlink.net.nz PO Box 5358, Wellington, New Zealand "Smile," they said "things could be worse!" So I smiled, and things were worse.... --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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netscan.org has query by AS
by Simon Lyall 07 Nov '00

07 Nov '00

It's seems to be fairly new, so people might want to have a look especially the people from AS 4768 . Just goto http://www.netscan.org/ and put your ASN in the box. -- Simon Lyall. | Newsmaster | Work: simon.lyall(a)ihug.co.nz Senior Network/System Admin | | Home: simon(a)darkmere.gen.nz ihug, Auckland, NZ | Asst Doorman | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: IHUG MX records
by David Katz 02 Nov '00

02 Nov '00

I would have to agree with this... When dealing with zone files, and their modifications, I have found 2day.com (a direct competitor to our business) to be much swifter in response and more co-operative than IHUG albeit they are also a direct competitor - but at least in the time of internetworking we really need to be able to have a bit of the "inter" part working to keep the whole "network" running...and I've found 2day to be very helpful in that regard. Dave. -----Original Message----- From: Peter Mott [mailto:peter(a)2day.com] Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 5:50 PM To: Simon Lyall Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: RE: IHUG MX records > On Fri, 3 Nov 2000, Peter Mott wrote: > > p.s. Dont ring the IHUG operator and ask for NOC. I got put through to > > somebody who had never heard of 2day.com > > The guy on duty can't be expected to have heard of every little ISP in the > country, especially those that we don't exchange money with or peer with. Given the size of the New Zealand market and the fact that we manage more zones than IHUG, not to mention our visibility in the market, I think this is a little rich. > > and was more interested in finding > > out how I managed to get connected to the NOC from the outside world. > > People are NOT supposed to be put through to the NOC without announcing > them and without at least trying to work out what their problem is first. I am not people. I am not even a poor IHUG customer. I am a fellow ISP expecting a little cooperation and respect. My motive was to get a mutual customer back on the air. > People can ring our NOC number in emergancies (ie our filters have gone > bad and a full routing table is melting your router) but I think the duty > NOC guy thought you were some customer who had bluffed his way through the > helpdesk. He may well have, but I made myself very clear about who I was. There is a world beyond IHUG. Suggest you lot open your eyes. Not everybody is the enemy in your war. Regards Peter Mott Chief Enthusiast 2day.com -/- --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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The New Zealand Network Operators' Group
by Donald Neal 02 Nov '00

02 Nov '00

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Final Agenda - ICANN Outreach Seminar - Nov 7-9
by Sue Leader 02 Nov '00

02 Nov '00

Greetings Further to my previous email the final agenda for the Seminar is available at: http://www.isocnz.org.nz/aptld_icann_outreach_001102.html. The plain text is below. The event is free and open to the public. Cheers Sue ++++++++++++ Text version APTLD/APNIC PACIFIC OUTREACH PROGRAM This Event is Free and Open to the Public - to find out how to get to UNITEC please go to UNITEC's maps page http://www.unitec.ac.nz/services/maps/howtoget.html If you plan to attend an RSVP to sguest(a)mail.nu would be appreciated Tuesday, November 7: Red Room UNITEC Auckland 0900 0915 Welcome - Gael McDonald, Dean, Faculty of Business, UNITEC 0915 1015 Introduction to ICANN - Jennifer Northover, Councilor, Internet Society of New Zealand Inc (ISOCNZ) - history - constituents - working groups - why you should participate - how to participate 1015 1045 APTLD - Dr Byung Kyu Kim of KRNIC (Korea) - history - structure - why you should participate - how you can participate 1045--1100 Morning tea break 1100 --1200 ASO - Paul Wilson, APNIC - History of IP Address Management - Introduction to the Regional Internet Registries - Address Supporting Organisation 1200 1300 LUNCH 1300 -- 1430 Voluntary Reports from Pacific ccTLDs: Niue, Cook Islands, Fiji, Vanuatu, Tuvalu, Solomons, Samoa, American Samoa, Tonga, Norfolk Island (Facilitator: Stafford Guest: ".nu") 1430 1530 Government Advisory Committee (GAC) Governments role in internet governance - Frank March, Senior IT Policy Advisor, NZ Ministry of Economic Development 1530 1600 AFTERNOON TEA 1600 1630 New Zealands Shared Registry Project: status report - Rick Shera, SRS Working Group, Lowndes Jordan, Auckland 1630 Networking (CSI sponsors) Wednesday, November 8 0900 1100 APNIC - Paul Wilson and Anne Lord - Introduction to APNIC - APNIC Status Report - Introduction to IP Address Management - APNIC Policies and Procedures - How to be an APNIC Member 1100 1115 MORNING TEA 1115 -- 1145 A Coming Issue: Multi Lingual Domain Names Ray Brownrigg, Victoria University, Wellington 1145 1230 Protection of Famous Names Trade Marks and the Internet - Bryan Thompson, Partner, A J Park, Auckland 1230 1330 LUNCH 1330-1400 Uniform Dispute Resolution Process Stafford Guest Internet Users Society Niue (IUS-N) 1400-1500 Country Code Registries and ICANN - Sue Leader Executive Director - ISOCNZ - do they need contracts with ICANN? - Best Practice models 1500 1530 AFTERNOON TEA 1530 -- 1700 Issues for the Internet in the Pacific: Shared Problems plenary discussion. Chair: Jim Higgins, New Zealand 1700 Networking Thursday, November 9: Blue Room APNIC training seminar. Organised by APNIC. (Attendance By Invitation) Sue Leader - Executive Director ISOCNZ (Internet Society of New Zealand Inc) Exe.Dir(a)isocnz.org.nz Voice: +64-4-801-6256 http://www.isocnz.org.nz Postal: Level 1, (e)-Vision Centre, 282 Wakefield St, Wellington "Error: Press any key to continue or any other key to quit..." --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Cisco 2514
by James Tyson 29 Oct '00

29 Oct '00

Hey all. I'm looking to get hold of a second hand 2514 (you know, 1RU, 2 ethernet ports) second hand. If anyone has one then let me know. Cheers. --- James Tyson Moebius Systems Ltd http://www.moebius.co.nz/ --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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